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re: Is Jimbo's offense outdated?
Posted on 6/26/21 at 3:20 pm to ForgetTheRest
Posted on 6/26/21 at 3:20 pm to ForgetTheRest
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If you are comparing a les miles offense with a Jimbo run offense than you are clearly trolling or have no idea what you are talking about.
Where did I do that?
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Posted on 6/26/21 at 3:30 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Where did I do that?
I don’t think you did at all. I think he skimmed our Miles comment and thought we were comparing offenses. I got you with the upvote sir
To be honest, I think we are run heavy to 1) burn clock, 2) personnel, our RB’s>WR’s talent wise, I felt Les was run heavy bc he wanted to run, he ran at Kansas with Pooka? (If that’s his name) a lot too
Posted on 6/26/21 at 3:47 pm to JayAg
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I don’t think you did at all. I think he skimmed our Miles comment and thought we were comparing offenses. I got you with the upvote sir
Les Miles is on his own level, his scheme comes from like the 60's. I formation, pound the ball between the hashes, play action pass here and there.
Fisher runs more of what folks ran in the 2000's and early 2010's, Pete Carroll's USC teams ran a lot of the same stuff.
It was a great offense at that time but it isn't nearly aggressive enough to keep pace with the big boys today unless the opposing quarterback just has a bad day or turns the ball over a lot.
This is why I think 2020 Ole Miss could've given Aggie a lot of trouble.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 3:57 pm to SidewalkTiger
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This is why I think 2020 Ole Miss could've given Aggie a lot of trouble.
Oh I know, that’s why I think they can give Bama a run for their money.
But I’ll say this, both A&M and LSU beat Florida, that had a great Offense and suspect Defense, do you think Ole Miss was above, on par, or below the Florida offense?
I think Florida even put up 40 on Bama, since we didn’t get to play Ole Miss I can’t judge how good that offense would match up with us
Posted on 6/26/21 at 3:58 pm to Ag Zwin
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I don’t really care if he is. Just want to know.
So, you do care. At least a little.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Les Miles is on his own level, his scheme comes from like the 60's. I formation, pound the ball between the hashes, play action pass here and there.
Fisher runs more of what folks ran in the 2000's and early 2010's, Pete Carroll's USC teams ran a lot of the same stuff.
It was a great offense at that time but it isn't nearly aggressive enough to keep pace with the big boys today unless the opposing quarterback just has a bad day or turns the ball over a lot.
This is why I think 2020 Ole Miss could've given Aggie a lot of trouble.
The same Arkansas team that beat Ole Miss?!
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:17 pm to SidewalkTiger
No offense is outdated. Biggest myth in sports. Hell, the single wing if run correctly would still wreck shop.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:21 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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No offense is outdated. Biggest myth in sports. Hell, the single wing if run correctly would still wreck shop.
Our school has a love affair with running the option, any QB 20 years ago, present, 10 years from now will always have to run the option, sometimes I wish we’d run jet sweeps
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:26 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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No offense is outdated. Biggest myth in sports. Hell, the single wing if run correctly would still wreck shop
Nick Saban and I disagree.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:37 pm to SidewalkTiger
Fisher inherited a mediocre team that had very little talent past the starters - very BDF like. He ran the offense that he did the first few years to protect a weak defense, and because Mond was deathly afraid to throw it down the field into tight coverage. There were numerous times last year when the WR had a step and Mond refused to pull the trigger.
Now, the defense and OL have been built. The defensive depth is getting better with each class. The OL will be even more talented in the future than their three star counterparts that we played with last year. The WR's are the last piece of the puzzle on offense with the priority on speed going forward.
I expect we will run a lot of two TE sets this year to help the OL ... especially at the beginning of the year.
You will be surprised at A&M's offense with King behind center. And we STILL have all those RB's to help him and a younger OL. A&M will be fine until Henson leaves.
Now, the defense and OL have been built. The defensive depth is getting better with each class. The OL will be even more talented in the future than their three star counterparts that we played with last year. The WR's are the last piece of the puzzle on offense with the priority on speed going forward.
I expect we will run a lot of two TE sets this year to help the OL ... especially at the beginning of the year.
You will be surprised at A&M's offense with King behind center. And we STILL have all those RB's to help him and a younger OL. A&M will be fine until Henson leaves.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:50 pm to JayAg
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both A&M and LSU beat Florida
Florida without Kyle Pitts does not equal Florida with Kyle Pitts.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 4:55 pm to RumHam
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Florida without Kyle Pitts does not equal Florida with Kyle Pitts.
I get that but LSU was also missing a ton of players in that game.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 5:10 pm to Chingon Ag
quote:Les Miles 2.0
He has to have a very dominant defense paired with his offense.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 5:29 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Of course, Aggies disagree and just want to blame Mond (whom Jimbo started for 3 years).
Tell me who on the A&M roster would have been a better option over Mond.
2018:
-Nick Starkel? We all know how that turned out.
-Connor Blumrick? He was a project at best. We'll see how he turns out at Virginia Tech in 2021.
-James Foster? True Freshman without a spring, borderline 4-star
2019:
-Zach Calzada? True freshman 3-star
-Connor Blumrick? See above. Converted to ST and utility player
-James Foster? His lone appearance vs. LSU should have told you all you need to know
2020:
-Haynes King? True Freshman without a spring season. Had the 2020 season fallen apart during the Florida game or later we might have seen more of King.
-Zach Calzada? See above
-Connor Blumrick? See above
-James Foster? Opted out before the season. We don't expect much from him at Charlotte.
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 6/26/21 at 5:32 pm to That LSU Guy
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Les Miles 2.0
I’m just glad we throw to the TE’s, it was impossible getting good TE’s at A&M because they were required to block only before, Martellus Bennett was so underutilized it was insane, he even made a rap song to Fran that was on YouTube,” once, “Coach, throw me the ball, throw me the ball, coach” lmao
Posted on 6/26/21 at 5:33 pm to JayAg
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it was impossible getting good TE’s at A&M because they were required to block only before
Maybe under Fran, Sherman and Sumlin.
During three of my four years at A&M, Derrick Spiller and Dan Campbell were frequent targets of Randy McCown.
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 6/26/21 at 5:33 pm to That LSU Guy
I would have taken the Les Miles from 2006-2011 ahead of Jimbo, but I’d definitely pick Jimbo over the Les Miles from 2012+.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 5:47 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Maybe under Fran, Sherman and Sumlin.
For sure.
The coach I don’t like to discuss criminally underutilized Martellus Bennett.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 5:55 pm to EKG
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For sure.
The coach I don’t like to discuss criminally underutilized Martellus Bennett.
Man I was at the Baylor game in Waco when he broke that 60 yarder or something for a TD, he always had that potential
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:10 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Tell me who on the A&M roster would have been a better option over Mond.
I mean if your roster was that bad, Jimbo must've did a shitty job of recruiting the position.
He also didn't bring any transfers in.
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