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Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:24 am to bamameister
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Didn't Jimbo win a national championship with QB Mattie Mauck at LSU in 2003 as the OC and QB coach?
Didn't Jimbo Fisher make QB JaMarcus Russell the number one QB taken in the NFL draft at LSU?
Didn't QB Christian Ponder become a first-round pick at Florida State under Jimbo?
Didn't QB EJ Manuel become a first-round pick in 2013 under Jimbo Fisher?
Didn't QB Jameis Winston win the Heisman and National Championship and become the 2nd Jimbo Fisher QB to be the first pick in the NFL draft?
Tell me again how the QB guru of the SEC has suddenly developed amnesia?
My stance is that Jimbo's approach has become outdated with the recent offensive revolution in the game.
To counter my argument, you bring up Jimbo's successes before the recent offensive revolution.
Interesting.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:25 am to bamameister
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who's in the stable? Secretariat or The Old Gray Mare
Mond is who he had. The question should be "How in the hell did Jimbo manage to coach Mond up to be a 2nd round draft choice?"
Jimbo is recruiting guys that can stretch the field. If our passing game is pedestrian this year op's question deserves serious consideration.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:28 am to FishFearMe
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Mond is who he had.
A very highly recruited quarterback prospect who was projected as a mid round pick coming out of high school.
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The question should be "How in the hell did Jimbo manage to coach Mond up to be a 2nd round draft choice?"
*3rd round, which is exactly where he was projected coming out of high school.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:32 am to SidewalkTiger
Mond was clearly overrated coming out of high school and Jimbo inherited Mond and a very mediocre team.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:34 am to SidewalkTiger
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My stance is that Jimbo's approach has become outdated with the recent offensive revolution in the game.
To counter my argument, you bring up Jimbo's successes before the recent offensive revolution.
So Jameis Winston's time at FSU was before the so-called offensive revolution? You are full of it.
Winston was throwing the ball all over the field in 2013-14 to the tune of 4000 yards a season. Hardly ancient football history.
Not everyone has to run HUNH RPO spread concepts constantly Einstein to be a part of the new age so-called offensive revolution. BAMA should be ample proof of that.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:10 pm to bamameister
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So Jameis Winston's time at FSU was before the so-called offensive revolution? You are full of it.
Winston was throwing the ball all over the field in 2013-14 to the tune of 4000 yards a season. Hardly ancient football history.
Not everyone has to run HUNH RPO spread concepts constantly Einstein to be a part of the new age so-called offensive revolution. BAMA should be ample proof of that.
BAMA changed their offense in what, 2014?
That was around the time the game started changing, right at the of Jameis/Jimbo.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:20 pm to WilliamTaylor21
Up by three scores in the rain. What did you want him to do?
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:26 pm to lock2040
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Up by three scores in the rain.
Not till extremely late in the third quarter.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:27 pm to SidewalkTiger
Jimbo's offense isn't outdated. It's beyond that; it's antiquated and by far the most complicated and most difficult offense in the SEC to learn. Which is why Kellen Mond was always so awful. As in four years he never could master Jimbo's overly complicated offense. Hence, I expect first time starting freshman QB Haynes King to struggle big time in 2021. Not to mention that there brand new starting offensive line with piss poor depth will also have its struggles in 2021.
The LSU 2018 offense wasn't remotely as complicated as the A&M offense is today. In fact, that 2018 offense was less complicated than the 2019 LSU offense because there wasn't nearly as many reads.
The LSU 2018 offense wasn't remotely as complicated as the A&M offense is today. In fact, that 2018 offense was less complicated than the 2019 LSU offense because there wasn't nearly as many reads.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:28 pm to AlabamaAg
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Yes! He will need to adapt.
Trust me, he won't. Jimbo is far too stubborn to adapt.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:32 pm to Purple Tiger King
My 2 cents:
Pro on offense, if the QB picks it up, the scouts like they can “run pro style offenses”, it’s outdated, but there is a lame reason for it…time of possession, go look at how many games the aggies simply held the ball longer in games, with that said, I’m not a fan of fielding an offense to tailored to controlling the clock, we had THIS same approach under Mike Sherman until he gave up and went spread, Jimbo’s version is just a little better than Mike Sherman’s version, but better than Fran running the options 50% of the game
Pro on offense, if the QB picks it up, the scouts like they can “run pro style offenses”, it’s outdated, but there is a lame reason for it…time of possession, go look at how many games the aggies simply held the ball longer in games, with that said, I’m not a fan of fielding an offense to tailored to controlling the clock, we had THIS same approach under Mike Sherman until he gave up and went spread, Jimbo’s version is just a little better than Mike Sherman’s version, but better than Fran running the options 50% of the game
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:38 pm to bamameister
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Jimbo's offenses at Florida State were lethal.
CORRECTION: Jameis Winston was lethal, Jimbo supplied the crabs.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:56 pm to texag7
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Do you know the difference between yards and points or do I need to break out the crayons?
Do you? Look up the total yards for each team that game....dead even at 267. What an arse kicking!
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:58 pm to SidewalkTiger
We just had a more successful year than JFF’s best year so no. Offenses have to be considered with the entire equation of the team and its strengths.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:00 pm to cardboardboxer
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We just had a more successful year than JFF’s best year so no. Offenses have to be considered with the entire equation of the team and its strengths.
The question isn't if you had a "good enough" offense that when paired with a great defense, would win games.
It's if you can win a championship with the offense you currently run.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:44 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It's if you can win a championship with the offense you currently run.
If Les Miles can field an offense good enough to get to the NC, I have hope Fisher can
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:47 pm to JayAg
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If Les Miles can field an offense good enough to get to the NC, I have hope Fisher can
He couldn't since the game changed.
Its literally why he got fired.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:54 pm to SidewalkTiger
Unless Darrell Dickey gets hired away which he almost did last year, I feel we are stuck with this offense, hopefully a new QB makes it more explosive, and talking about explosive, it’s no secret A&M is trying to get faster at WR, we severely lacked speed in that unit
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
If you are comparing a les miles offense with a Jimbo run offense than you are clearly trolling or have no idea what you are talking about. 
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