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re: Is Chizik a "flash in the pan"?
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:06 pm to adammwilson
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:06 pm to adammwilson
So much for the flame war ending...14 more pages please.
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:07 pm to m2pro
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he's the perfect 'coach' for AU. he knows his role well and does a perfect job in it.
dude had a QB that comes along only once every 180k years.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:13 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Where is all of the Offensive Line talent that Chiz Jizz recruits? Can't blame that on TommyT cause you would also have to give him credit for the Crystal last year, and we know no true Auburn Fan is going to do that - So where is it all?
I'd assume their all Freshmen and Redshirt Freshmen since we played 4 Srs and a Jr on the line last season. Please keep up with the stats if you plan on making a "real" contribution to the conversation..
Who is this prick anyway?
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:22 pm to adammwilson
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When did Chiz lead his team to more than one finish in the top 10? Oh wait.... see both sides can do it.
Wow...
Chizik replaced a guy who was fired for going 5-7 and had no recruits from the previous 2 seasons
Miles replaced a guy who had won 2 SEC and 1 Nat'l Championship in the prev four year and had stockpiled enough talent that he really underachieved in his first four seasons...
Don't think so? Check the NFL rosters of player that played at LSU from '05-'07
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:25 pm to schuhbdoo3
It cracks me up how great Cam Newton is today as opposed to a few months ago. Now that he is proving he can indeed play professional football as a QB all the opposing fans use him to prove Chizik is a 1 hit wonder. 
The argument can continue and nothing will be solved here. the Rantards have chosen to flame Auburn do to the fear Ice will wax their arse if they try to flame Bama.
The argument can continue and nothing will be solved here. the Rantards have chosen to flame Auburn do to the fear Ice will wax their arse if they try to flame Bama.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:33 pm to thirdlawson
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had no recruits from the previous 2 seasons
'08- Onterrio McCalebb, T'Sharven Bell, Nieko Thorpe, Darvin Adams, Chris Todd, Barrett Trotter, Eric Smith..
'07- Quindarius Carr, Jared Cooper, A.J. Greene, Eltoro Freeman, Kodi Burns, Lee Ziemba, Ryan Pugh, Nick Fairley, Josh Bynes, Wes Byrum and Antoine Carter.
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he really underachieved in his first four seasons...
you're so right!
'05- won west (ranked 5th in country at year's end)
'06- 2nd west (ranked 3rd in country at year's end)
'07- won west (ranked 1st in country won NC at year's end)
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:18 pm to adammwilson
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'08- Onterrio McCalebb, T'Sharven Bell, Nieko Thorpe, Darvin Adams, Chris Todd, Barrett Trotter, Eric Smith..
Darvin Adams WR - Went Pro after 2010 season
Harry Adams WR - Dismissed in '09
Ken Adams TE - DNQ
DaShaun Barnes LB - DNQ
*T'Sharvan Bell DB - RS Jr Starting CB
*Drew Cole DB - SR, Special Teamer
Dax Dellenbach LS - Left Team
DeRon Furr S - Left team
Raven Gray DE - Left school
Cam Henderson DE - Dismissed in '09
D'Antoine Hood DB - Transferred to Bama St
Reggie Hunt RB - DNQ
Marcus Jemison LB - Dismissed, charged with murder
*Neiko Thorpe DB - Sr Starting FS
Derrick Lykes DT - Dismissed in '11
*Onterrio McCalebb RB - Jr Co-Starter
Phillip Pierre-Louis WR - Left team in '10
Spencer Pybus LB - Medical Hardship
Jomarcus Savage DL - Dismissed in '09
Brandon Smith ATH - DNQ
Eric Smith FB - Dismissed in '11
Vance Smith TE - Med. Hardship
Freddie Smooth - DNQ, charged with murder
Christian Thompson FS - dismissed in '09
Chris Todd QB - Sr 2009
*Barrett Trotter QB - RS Jr, Backup QB
Andre Wadley DL - Med Hardship
Derek Winter WR - Left team
Jermaine Johnson OL - DNQ
So this should be the Sr/RS Jr class at Auburn this season...
* Still with team
29 signed, only 8 contributed, only 5 still on the team, and 2 charged with murder...
Most likely the WORST recruiting class in SEC history...
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:20 pm to thirdlawson
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2 charged with murder...
Damn, that really was a bad recruiting class
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:21 pm to thirdlawson
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Most likely the WORST recruiting class in SEC history...
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:25 pm to adammwilson
I think Miles NC and 4 top 10 finishes speak to the quality coach that he is and I don't think it is even debatable at this point. I also think it is way to early to be speculating that Chizik is a flash in the pan. I understand the perception about the 3rd year in a program and how it must look to those who don't follow Auburn closely.
For those who actually care what happened I will now explain it to you. In 2007 Alabama hired this guy named Nick Saban. I understand if you missed it but it was kind of a big deal around here. We had been recruiting well against Shula and our program was in good shape but Tubs saw that Saban had a lot of momentum in recruiting and he needed to do all he could to weather the storm. We got off to an awful start that year losing 2 of our 1st 3 games to USF and State and Tubs panicked and pulled the RS off of everybody he thought might buy him a few more wins. It worked short term and we righted the ship and finished 9-4. It did not help in regards to recruiting and for 2 straight years(Tub's last and Chizik's 1st)Saban literally got everybody he wanted. Those classes and the players that should've been redshirted in 07 represent our 3rd, 4th and 5th year players. We are down to about 70 pre-walkon awarded scholarship players and playing almost exclusively with 1st and 2nd year players. Add in some bad luck at OT with 4(2 4* and 2 3*) signees from the past 3 classes physically unable to play forcing us to use a LT that isn't fully recovered from a broken ankle last year. 2 wr's(4*)going full retard and robbing someone at gunpoint causing us not to have the depth to withstand injuries to our 2 best wr's. Top all that off with an injury to our 2nd and 3rd team wde and you get the clusterfrick that was the 2011 AU/LSU game.
For those who actually care what happened I will now explain it to you. In 2007 Alabama hired this guy named Nick Saban. I understand if you missed it but it was kind of a big deal around here. We had been recruiting well against Shula and our program was in good shape but Tubs saw that Saban had a lot of momentum in recruiting and he needed to do all he could to weather the storm. We got off to an awful start that year losing 2 of our 1st 3 games to USF and State and Tubs panicked and pulled the RS off of everybody he thought might buy him a few more wins. It worked short term and we righted the ship and finished 9-4. It did not help in regards to recruiting and for 2 straight years(Tub's last and Chizik's 1st)Saban literally got everybody he wanted. Those classes and the players that should've been redshirted in 07 represent our 3rd, 4th and 5th year players. We are down to about 70 pre-walkon awarded scholarship players and playing almost exclusively with 1st and 2nd year players. Add in some bad luck at OT with 4(2 4* and 2 3*) signees from the past 3 classes physically unable to play forcing us to use a LT that isn't fully recovered from a broken ankle last year. 2 wr's(4*)going full retard and robbing someone at gunpoint causing us not to have the depth to withstand injuries to our 2 best wr's. Top all that off with an injury to our 2nd and 3rd team wde and you get the clusterfrick that was the 2011 AU/LSU game.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:26 pm to adammwilson
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:32 pm to thirdlawson
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For those who actually care what happened I will now explain it to you. In 2007 Alabama hired this guy named Nick Saban. I understand if you missed it but it was kind of a big deal around here. We had been recruiting well against Shula and our program was in good shape but Tubs saw that Saban had a lot of momentum in recruiting and he needed to do all he could to weather the storm. We got off to an awful start that year losing 2 of our 1st 3 games to USF and State and Tubs panicked and pulled the RS off of everybody he thought might buy him a few more wins. It worked short term and we righted the ship and finished 9-4. It did not help in regards to recruiting and for 2 straight years(Tub's last and Chizik's 1st)Saban literally got everybody he wanted. Those classes and the players that should've been redshirted in 07 represent our 3rd, 4th and 5th year players. We are down to about 70 pre-walkon awarded scholarship players and playing almost exclusively with 1st and 2nd year players.
All fact. 2008 & 2009 were arguably the best recruiting years in the history of the state of Alabama. Every in-state kid that Nick Saban offered a scholly in those 2 years went to Alabama. All of them.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:30 am to marshallcotiger
Best post out of the 15 pages. Good job on the homework. Every program goes through these rebuilding years. Everyone wants to call out the coach. Auburn will be fine.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 8:23 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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The argument can continue and nothing will be solved here. the Rantards have chosen to flame Auburn do to the fear Ice will wax their arse if they try to flame Bama.
Its been open season for bullshite Auburn flames for over a year now.
They might as well put that in the FAQ: "Flaming is frowned upon and may be grounds for termination of your account. Except if its about Auburn... in that case, fricking go for it."
Posted on 10/26/11 at 8:27 am to beatbammer
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"Flaming is frowned upon and may be grounds for termination of your account. Except if its about Auburn... in that case, fricking go for it."
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:01 am to blzr
24 to 17 at their field was in no way embarrassing. trying to tackle newton was. 45 to 10 is very embarrasing. 
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:07 am to old man tiger
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24 to 17 at their field was in no way embarrassing. trying to tackle newton was. 45 to 10 is very embarrasing. [sic]
And yet it seems that LSU fans had a more difficult time dealing with last years loss than Auburn fans have had dealing with this years.
How do you explain that?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:31 am to old man tiger
Mercy kneal down kept it from 31-17.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:38 am to beatbammer
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They might as well put that in the FAQ: "Flaming is frowned upon and may be grounds for termination of your account. Except if its about Auburn... in that case, fricking go for it."
If Albear or whatever that dude's name is had been an tailor in Auburn, there would have been a 2K page thread about it.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:48 am to beatbammer
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"Flaming is frowned upon and may be grounds for termination of your account. Except if its about Auburn... in that case, fricking go for it."
Absolute truth. And I think it makes a great sig quote.
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 9:51 am
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