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re: Is Brian Kelly Underrated?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:50 pm to ChromaticTide
Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:50 pm to ChromaticTide
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Is Brian Kelly Underrated?
His work at LSU will determine whether or not he's underrated. He did well at a place (ND) where he had academic restrictions he will not have at LSU. The next 2 or 3 seasons will tell.
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:55 pm to Milf n Cookies
You buying that academic standards big lie at ND ? Check out a book about ND called something like “Beneath the Tarnished Dome”. It’s an old book but from what I hear nothing has changed
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:56 pm to Milf n Cookies
Y’all will be ready to kick his dancing arse to the curb long before 2 - 3 years
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:00 pm to SaturdayNAthens
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Y’all will be ready to kick his dancing arse to the curb long before 2 - 3 years
That thought did cross my mind.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:06 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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To phrase it better
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We wonaot title
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:11 pm to ChromaticTide
I’m sure he will do well. It may take a year or two because I think after 2019 orgeron really ran the program down and he will have to weed out the cancers and get his players in.
The only issue I see is cultural fit. He was a perfect fit for Notre Dame. LSU not so much. Sometimes that can cause issues, you’re dealing with a different type of player and attitudes than at ND. Also the alumni/boosters are different.
Look at coaches who fit culturally well at their school and they tend to succeed. Pittman at Arky. Kiffin at OM. Orgeron fit at LSU, and he did a great job through 2019. It was obvious after that he quit trying, he accomplished what he wanted and lost interest.
Kelly will be an interesting one to watch. He is obviously a good coach. Sometimes good coaches don’t do well at certain programs though.
The only issue I see is cultural fit. He was a perfect fit for Notre Dame. LSU not so much. Sometimes that can cause issues, you’re dealing with a different type of player and attitudes than at ND. Also the alumni/boosters are different.
Look at coaches who fit culturally well at their school and they tend to succeed. Pittman at Arky. Kiffin at OM. Orgeron fit at LSU, and he did a great job through 2019. It was obvious after that he quit trying, he accomplished what he wanted and lost interest.
Kelly will be an interesting one to watch. He is obviously a good coach. Sometimes good coaches don’t do well at certain programs though.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:15 pm to deltaland
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The only issue I see is cultural fit.
If that’s the biggest issue we’re golden
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:32 pm to Sun God
The cultural fit narrative is one of the dumbest and most inconsequential things I've ever heard.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:33 pm to TigerLunatik
It blows my mind
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:40 pm to Sun God
But people keep repeating it like they think it makes them sound smart.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:40 pm to Sun God
LSU coaches that do well are no nonsense discipline guys that rein them in. Saban early miles Arnsperger etc just like this mean sob. Biggest hard asses just do better
Posted on 8/26/22 at 7:19 pm to TigerLunatik
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The cultural fit narrative is one of the dumbest and most inconsequential things I've ever heard.
People here parrot this but they can't explain what they actually even mean by it.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 7:53 pm to SidewalkTiger
The only culture that matters at lsu is the culture of winning.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 8:17 pm to SidewalkTiger
Not rocket surgery doc. Easier than your grenade launches. Having fun?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:33 pm to ChromaticTide
No. He is overrated.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:57 pm to EarlyCuyler3
And Saban lost to Texas 8&4.
Bama fans never change.All Bama fans would frick their sister in private and suck their coach's dick in public.its the Bama way.
Bama fans never change.All Bama fans would frick their sister in private and suck their coach's dick in public.its the Bama way.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 12:06 am to SaturdayNAthens
The notion that “academics” handicap ND from a recruiting perspective are way overblown. Can we offer every kid that Bama and UGA offer? No, but if you have a 3.0-ish GPA and don’t bomb your SAT/ACT then you can get into ND as a football recruit. ND has offered 80% of the 2023 5* recruits. Weis and Kelly got several kids into ND who had GPA’s below 3.0 in HS. Weis’ first class included a kid with a 2.2 GPA during the fall of his senior year of HS, and after Weis got fired, Kelly helped sign a kid with a 2.5 GPA out of a shite public HS in Jacksonville.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 12:22 am to NDIrish88
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notion that “academics” handicap ND from a recruiting perspective are way overblown. Can we offer every kid that Bama and UGA offer? No, but if you have a 3.0-ish GPA and don’t bomb your SAT/ACT then you can get into ND
This.
Every school makes academic admission standards exemptions for athletes.
When Kelly brought this up a few years ago, the ND avg freshman football player had a 2.8 HS GPA and a 24 ACT score. The typical ND FR (19% acceptance rate) had a 33 ACT and a min of 3.6 GPA for consideration.
The high academic schools make the dame exceptions as everyone else.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 2:16 pm to NDIrish88
ND is a lot like GT in that they use the higher academic standards excuse for their failures. And just like GT it’s pure bullshite
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