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re: Is Auburn really claiming 1958?
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:05 am to HunterDawg
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:05 am to HunterDawg
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If programs can just self-proclaim championships, why even play the games. Just have spring practice and everybody claim their trophies.
Bama has won the A-Day National Championships for decades now!
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:09 am to borotiger
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Using the same standard,
can you tell me what the standard is?
I have never even heard of several of the "polls" Auburn is using to justofy some of these. And the wikipedia national champions page lists a whole bunch of obscure ratings systems.
James Howell’s Power Ratings System, Montgomery Full Season Championship, Darryl Perry and GBE College Football Ratings sound made up.
Claiming extraneous titles in the poll era that weren't the AP/UPI/Coaches/BCS/CFP, depending on which era you full under, is embarrassing. 1958, 1993, 2004. Please
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 11:15 am
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:19 am to lsufball19
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can you tell me what the standard is?
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:30 am to Marktastic86
Looked up that 1910 season. Conference foe Vanderbilt, went undefeated with one tie against Yale (defending national champ) and only have up 2 points the entire season. They did not claim a national title in 1910. Michigan has an equally hilarious claim for that season. They went 3-0-3 and claim a title.
There's honestly a ton of random claims back then. Prior to the poll era, basically all national title claims are retroactive because there was no system to crown national champs back then
There's honestly a ton of random claims back then. Prior to the poll era, basically all national title claims are retroactive because there was no system to crown national champs back then
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 11:31 am
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:31 am to Marktastic86
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Marktastic86
Are you trying to throw shade on claiming titles in years based on polls that didn't exist in those years? Sure you want to go down that route? Or am I misinterpreting your post?
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 11:33 am
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:36 am to captdalton
Have a source for this? The Montgomery Advertiser?
What I've read in the recent claims is that the "Montgomery Full Season Championship" selected them?
What was this? Where was it published? When?
What I've read in the recent claims is that the "Montgomery Full Season Championship" selected them?
What was this? Where was it published? When?
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:49 am to MajorSelector
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What I've read in the recent claims is that the "Montgomery Full Season Championship" selected them?
What was this? Where was it published? When?
google is turning up nothing. I can't find any information about that existing other than the articles published yesterday about Auburn claiming their title from that publication. I'd love to know who they crowned as champs in other seasons.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:52 am to lsufball19
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:59 am to lsufball19
Here's the archived list from College Football Data Warehouse.
No source links are provided. Still don't know where or when this "Montgomery Full Season Championship" was published.
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"Montgomery Full Season Championship" selections
Data created by: David A. Montgomery
Data obtained from: Tex Noel
Link: N/A
1936 - Minnesota
1937 - California
1938 - Texas Christian
1939 - Tennessee
1940 - Minnesota
1941 - Minnesota
1942 - Georgia
1943 - Notre Dame (IN)
1944 - Army (NY)
1945 - Army (NY)
1946 - Army (NY)
1947 - Notre Dame (IN)
1948 - Notre Dame (IN)
1949 - Notre Dame (IN)
1950 - Army (NY)
1951 - Tennessee
1952 - Michigan St.
1953 - Notre Dame (IN)
1954 - Oklahoma
1955 - Maryland
1956 - Oklahoma
1957 - Oklahoma
1958 - Auburn (AL)
1959 - Louisiana St.
1960 - Mississippi
1961 - Alabama
1962 - Alabama
1963 - Texas
1964 - Alabama
1965 - Arkansas
1966 - Michigan St.
1967 - Southern California
1968 - Southern California
1969 - Ohio St.
1970 - Texas
1971 - Nebraska
1972 - Southern California
1973 - Ohio St.
1974 - Oklahoma
1975 - Ohio St.
1976 - Michigan, Pittsburgh (PA)
1977 - Oklahoma
1978 - Oklahoma
1979 - Alabama
1980 - Alabama
1981 - Pittsburgh (PA)
1982 - Georgia
No source links are provided. Still don't know where or when this "Montgomery Full Season Championship" was published.
LINK
"Montgomery Full Season Championship" selections
Data created by: David A. Montgomery
Data obtained from: Tex Noel
Link: N/A
1936 - Minnesota
1937 - California
1938 - Texas Christian
1939 - Tennessee
1940 - Minnesota
1941 - Minnesota
1942 - Georgia
1943 - Notre Dame (IN)
1944 - Army (NY)
1945 - Army (NY)
1946 - Army (NY)
1947 - Notre Dame (IN)
1948 - Notre Dame (IN)
1949 - Notre Dame (IN)
1950 - Army (NY)
1951 - Tennessee
1952 - Michigan St.
1953 - Notre Dame (IN)
1954 - Oklahoma
1955 - Maryland
1956 - Oklahoma
1957 - Oklahoma
1958 - Auburn (AL)
1959 - Louisiana St.
1960 - Mississippi
1961 - Alabama
1962 - Alabama
1963 - Texas
1964 - Alabama
1965 - Arkansas
1966 - Michigan St.
1967 - Southern California
1968 - Southern California
1969 - Ohio St.
1970 - Texas
1971 - Nebraska
1972 - Southern California
1973 - Ohio St.
1974 - Oklahoma
1975 - Ohio St.
1976 - Michigan, Pittsburgh (PA)
1977 - Oklahoma
1978 - Oklahoma
1979 - Alabama
1980 - Alabama
1981 - Pittsburgh (PA)
1982 - Georgia
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:02 pm to MajorSelector
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Here's a mention in 1982:
pretty wild that if you search exactly that query, spanning millions and millions of newspaper articles using that search engine, that specific poll comes up exactly one time. I honestly hope it's actually some local newspaper out of Montgomery, Alabama.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:02 pm to MajorSelector
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1959 - Louisiana St.
looks like we can add another unclaimed national title
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:20 pm to AuburnTigers
half loss u mathematician
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:39 pm to imjustafatkid
Auburn rant takeover!!!
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:23 pm to MajorSelector
That list is wild. Notre Dame has never claimed 1953, nor USC 1968 or a bunch of others on there. Notre Dame was AP champions in 73.. Ohio State won neither.
What's more is the NCAA doesn't recognize that crap organization that made that list. And that says a lot because the NCAA recognizes a bunch of them.
What's more is the NCAA doesn't recognize that crap organization that made that list. And that says a lot because the NCAA recognizes a bunch of them.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:28 pm to CBandits82
11-0 is better than 9-0-1
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:22 am to AuburnTigers
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and now bama fans are crying about it
No Chex, laughing
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:32 am to CBandits82
Well frick we can play that too and claim at least 3 more ???
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:40 am to VFL67
Idk how this hasn’t registered but Auburn fans are trolling the frick out of you all right now
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