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re: Is Arkansas the Most Influential College Football State of All-Time? (Yes)
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:12 am to chipd
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:12 am to chipd
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There is a reason the Hall of Fame is located there.
The College Football Hall of Fame is in South Bend, Indiana but is moving to Atlanta in 2013. Not in Ohio.
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Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Both major polls put Bama #1. That's not a split title.
They are considered the major polls in 2011. In 1964 it wasn't looked at the same way. That's where people get confused. Just because someone came along in the 90's and said the only two polls that matter were the AP and Coaches poll doesn't change the fact that in 1964 people called it a split title.
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 12:15 am
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:29 am to SunHog
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Houston Nutt
Houston Dale Nutt should never be placed on any list regarding most influential
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Gus Malzhan
5 years removed from the high school game and hasn't coached 1 down of football as a D1 HC
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Charlie Strong
Is he still banished to Louisville?
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Tommy Tuberville
Good coach? yes ....influential? Hell frick no
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Garrick McGee
this is a joke right?
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:35 am to The ChizMan Cometh
Arkansas and Alabama legitimately claim the 1964 National Championship, since all selectors of national title teams are documented in the official 2010 NCAA FBS College Football Record Book. These selectors, including the AP Poll and the Coaches' Poll, were nationally-syndicated in newspapers and magazines during the 1964 football season
All that really matters.
The records books list it as a split, if other fans don't want to acknowledge that to save face or talk shite, well, go ahead and look like idiots.
Just don't ever pick up an NCAA Football Record Book.
All that really matters.
The records books list it as a split, if other fans don't want to acknowledge that to save face or talk shite, well, go ahead and look like idiots.
Just don't ever pick up an NCAA Football Record Book.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:39 am to Draconian Sanctions
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If Bear Bryant had known that the bowl game that year had been for the National Title, there's a decent chance the game would have gone differently.
Why do people say that? So Alabama just didn't care that they were playing the number 5 team in the country? Do you know anything about that game? Namath played the entire game. The game was saved for UT on a last second tackle on 4th down. They tried to win, they didn't. And by 1964, playing in a bowl game like the orange bowl against UT and Darrel Royal was considered prestigious. There's a reason they changed the voting after the bowls the next year and then permenantly 3 years later. Because it was stupid and obviously didn't show who was the true champion.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 1:39 am to SunHog
No.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 8:19 am to SunHog
Stepping stone school until they got a real job. 
Posted on 12/17/11 at 8:23 am to SunHog
I'd add Larry Lacewell to your list. Former Dallas Cowboys scouting coordinator was from Fordyce. Bear Bryant helped him find a place to play ball.
Jimmy "Red" Parker is another one from Fordyce. Coached at The Cidital and then as HC at Clemson.
Dwight Adams is from Dumas and was the Bills scouting coordinator during their Super Bowl appearances.
Jimmy "Red" Parker is another one from Fordyce. Coached at The Cidital and then as HC at Clemson.
Dwight Adams is from Dumas and was the Bills scouting coordinator during their Super Bowl appearances.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 8:31 am to Stuttgart Tiger
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Jimmy "Red" Parker is another one from Fordyce. Coached at The Cidital and then as HC at Clemson.
Ended up coaching at Fordyce High School for retirement, I played against him my sophomore year. That old bastard could still get a team fired up.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 8:35 am to BennyAndTheInkJets
He coached there and at Woodlawn and maybe one other stop.
My college coach was from Fordyce too. That little town has turned out some coaches.
My college coach was from Fordyce too. That little town has turned out some coaches.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 8:47 am to Stuttgart Tiger
I didn't know Parker coached at Woodlawn, I know Marion Glover (my old coach at Camden) coached or coaches there now. I think Glover still has the most championships for any coach at the highest Arkansas classification from his Pine Bluff days.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:19 am to SunHog
Great post SunHog!
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 10:03 am
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:31 am to Stuttgart Tiger
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I'd add Larry Lacewell to your list. Former Dallas Cowboys scouting coordinator was from Fordyce. Bear Bryant helped him find a place to play ball.
Jimmy "Red" Parker is another one from Fordyce. Coached at The Cidital and then as HC at Clemson.
Dwight Adams is from Dumas and was the Bills scouting coordinator during their Super Bowl appearances.
Very deserving.
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 12/17/11 at 11:25 am to SunHog
Quoting Bleacher Report sucks, but...
Impressive list of coaches.
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Frank Broyles
Bear Bryant
Lou Holtz
Barry Switzer
Jimmy Johnson
Houston Nutt (Only because he coached 2 SEC schools)
Jimmy Johnson
Butch Davis
Ken Hatfield
Johnny Majors
Hayden Fry
Fred Ackers
Gus Malzhan
Charlie Strong
Tommy Tuberville
Fitz Hill
Monte Kiffen
Garrick McGee
Jerry Jones
Pat Summerall
Joe Gibbs
Impressive list of coaches.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 11:45 am to UltimateHog
I don't care about any of that. The AP and the Coaches are the only polls that matter, period.
It's no great joy to me to side with Alabama in an argument, but someone has to draw a line somewhere with these bogus title claims.
It's no great joy to me to side with Alabama in an argument, but someone has to draw a line somewhere with these bogus title claims.
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 11:50 am
Posted on 12/17/11 at 11:55 am to UltimateHog
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If not for the State of Arkansas, College Football wouldn't have 1/50 the history it has.
FIFY
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
What about 1951 Tennessee? They went undefeated and were AP and UPI champions. Maryland also went undefeated and finished 2nd. They played in a bowl game. Maryland won. So you really think that system was credible?
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:12 pm to chipd
You lost me at . . .
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Arkansas
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Most Influential
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College Football
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:39 pm to SunHog
a) You and your little Bleacher Report buddies need to define influential before you can make claims like this. Deciding a state is the most influential of all time in college football based upon how many people lived there for any length of time is pretty stupid. Other states have influenced college football far more based upon other criteria, and the history books would reflect that. Not only does Ohio have an incredible resume of coaches, but the history and tradition of Ohio State and other schools blow Arkansas away. That adds to the state's influence.
b) If you people really are getting into an internet fight over one shared title from 1964 in which none of the mainstream media sources declared you the champions, it is exceedingly pitiful. I would say that no one cares that some dinky guy on the internet, who is from Arkansas, is unwilling to accept the given standards for that particular year.
b) If you people really are getting into an internet fight over one shared title from 1964 in which none of the mainstream media sources declared you the champions, it is exceedingly pitiful. I would say that no one cares that some dinky guy on the internet, who is from Arkansas, is unwilling to accept the given standards for that particular year.
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