re: Is 1945 one of those fake Bama National Championships?

I think most, if not all, of the pre-poll era championships were retroactive. In '25, '30, and '34, Bama was undefeated and won the Rose Bowl (they tied in '26)...several newspapers/sports writers of that time considered the winners of the Rose Bowl the mythical national champs...Bama has as much right as any of the teams in those years although others were worthy as well...

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1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

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All "titles" awarded in 1925 were retroactive...but of the 12 awarded, 9 went to Bama, 2 to Dartmouth, and 1 to a one-loss team. More than one newspaper/media source was of the opinion that the Rose Bowl that year was for National Grid Title/Mythical National Championship.

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1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

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Tennessee claims 1951...they played Maryland in their bowl and LOST. Is UT dropping their claim on this one?

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1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0

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Make up your mind, which is more important, pre-bowl ranking or post-bowl? The three teams you mention with better records that year all LOST their bowl game...and one of them, Nebraska, lost to Alabama...

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1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.

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Yes, Bama lost to USC that year...USC later lost to an unranked team. At the time of the bowl games, Bama was #2 in both polls. We beat #1 Penn State in the Sugar Bowl...we won the AP poll but lost the vote in the UPI...if anything we got screwed that year by the UPI. #2 beats #1 while #3 beats #5...and #3 becomes #1?