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Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:04 pm to
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Then he quit and now at Florida. Props to his success, but he's a D-Bag for quitting on his team and fans then going to Florida.

Yeah, quitting definitely hurts his legacy. He should've at least stuck it out for the rest of the season.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:09 pm to
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He beat up on some bad Georgia and Tennessee teams and occasionally beat FSU

this may be the dumbest thing I’ve seen on here.

Tennessee was a perennial top 5-10 team when Spurrier was at Florida.

He was 5-8-1 against FSU, pretty good considering FSU finished ranked in the top 5 every year from 1987-2000.

Spurrier won a conference title at fricking Duke. He took over a Florida program coming off probation. He was ranked 202 weeks in a row at Florida. He won 25 SEC games in a row from 1994-1997. Then he goes to USC, a program that had never been good and had three straight 11 win seasons. If you really think Spurrier is overrated, then you’re either too young or too ignorant to know any better
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 10:14 pm
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3447 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:10 pm to
He dominated. The SEC with play calling. Nobody blew people out like Spurrier during his time. He did lose to FSU way to much. Auburn would have fired his arse. Just sayin.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:19 pm to


Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65057 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:28 pm to
My two cents on Spurrier:

The man's influence on the conference can't be denied. When he arrived in Gainesville in 1990, he arrived to a conference that still preached three yards and a cloud of dust. There were even one or two teams still running the wishbone. When he left for the NFL some 11 years later, there were more offenses emulating his style within the conference than weren't.

Now...I won't deny that he was a solid coach. The man turned around programs like Duke and South Carolina, not to mention what he did at Florida. But it also must be pointed out that the man dominated a conference very much unlike what it is even today. At his program's height in the mid-90s, there were essentially only three teams in the SEC that were worth a damn: Florida, Tennessee, and Alabama.

His teams ran roughshod through the SEC but frequently lost to the Florida States and Nebraskas of the world. In fact...as good as his program was throughout the course of his tenure there, his was still only the third best team in the state of Florida more often than not. He never had an undefeated season, only ran the table through the regular season once, and won his lone national championship off a mulligan.

He was a great coach but considering how weak the conference was in the 1990s, I might not even rank him in the Top 5 of greatest SEC coaches. I'd put Saban, Bryant, Neyland, and Dooley ahead of him for sure.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22368 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:32 pm to
Exactly... perhaps no one person is more responsible for what we think of today as the modern SEC than SOS (although you could make a strong case for Roy Kramer)
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:40 pm to
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mulligan


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Alabama Fan

Uh...

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Dooley

No.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65057 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:44 pm to
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Uh...


Yeah, yeah, 2011. But Saban has four other national championships on his resume that weren't won by mulligan. So that shite won't fly.

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No.


Please give me a coherent argument as to why not. He won over 200 games, 6 conference titles, and also achieved something Spurrier never could: an undefeated season. I'm sure you'll mention Herschel Walker so I'll just preempt that with Danny Wuerffel.
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:49 pm to
At least there aren’t a bunch of guys sucking each other off inside
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:51 pm to
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Please give me a coherent argument as to why not. He won over 200 games, 6 conference titles, and also achieved something Spurrier never could: an undefeated season. I'm sure you'll mention Herschel Walker so I'll just preempt that with Danny Wuerffel.

For one, Spurrier won more SEC titles per your own logic (on the field). Can't have it both ways.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65057 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:30 pm to
Dooley had to compete in the SEC against Bryant. And Spurrier had virtually no competition in his division outside of Tennessee for the entirety of his tenure there.
Posted by TunaTigers
Nola
Member since Dec 2007
5352 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:40 pm to
Holy shite young Spurrier looks like Phillip Rivers.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:42 pm to
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Dooley had to compete in the SEC against Bryant.

Yeah, 6 times in 19 seasons.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:44 pm to
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Please give me a coherent argument as to why not.

SEC Titles Using RollTide1987 Logic
Spurrier: 7 (all unshared)
Dooley: 6 (2 shared)

SEC Record
Spurrier: 73.2% (and this includes his tenure at USC)
Dooley: 70.7%

Major Bowl Wins
Spurrier: 4
Dooley: 3

SEC Coach of the Year
Spurrier: 7 (most all-time)
Dooley: 5

Georgia before Dooley: 57.0%
Georgia with Dooley: 71.5%
Georgia since Dooley: 69.3%

Florida before Spurrier: 58.0%
Florida with Spurrier: 81.7%
Florida since Spurrier: 66.0%

South Carolina before Spurrier: 49.8%
South Carolina with Spurrier: 63.7%

The numbers don't lie, and they spell DISASTER for you.

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65057 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:00 am to
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all unshared


You really can't use that argument because Dooley coached in a time before the SEC Championship Game. Had the SEC Championship Game not existed, Alabama, and not Florida, are SEC champions in 1994.

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Spurrier: 73.2% (and this includes his tenure at USC)


The majority of those wins came at a time when only two other teams had a consistent pulse. Dooley coached in the 1980s when the conference was up for grabs literally every single year due to immense parity. Context my friend. Context.

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The numbers don't lie, and they spell DISASTER for you.



Only when you ignore how much of a joke the SEC was for the majority of Spurrier's tenure at Florida.
Posted by hogNsinceReagan
Fayetteville, Ar
Member since Feb 2015
5879 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:18 am to
Was Spurrier coaching at Florida when Arkansas was legitimately robbed out of an sec championship?

Lol, no. It was Urban. Was thinking of the Tennessee game in the 90's. Carry on.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 12:21 am
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:41 am to
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RollTide1987

There you go, being a hypocrite again. Spurrier > Dooley using YOUR logic.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:42 am to
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Was Spurrier coaching at Florida when Arkansas was legitimately robbed out of an sec championship?

Lol, no. It was Urban. Was thinking of the Tennessee game in the 90's. Carry on.

Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7956 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:44 am to
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That just says more about your lack of knowledge than anything else


Ditto

Let’s see...

He never won less than 9 games in 11years and UF sucked before that. He finished first or tied for first in the east 9 times. Won the conference 6 times. Won a national title. And what kind of fricking moron would say UT was down. UT was tough as hell back then. They went 9-2, 9-3, 9-3, 10-2, 8-4, 11-1, 10-2, 11-2, 13-0, 9-3, 8-4, and 11-2 in the years Spurrier was at UF.

Oh yeah, and then he went to USCe, a program who hadn’t won 10 games in over 20 years and had gone 0-11 within the last five, and won the sec east and ripped off three 11-win seasons in a row with three top ten finishes.

Surely that must be a troll.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:45 am to
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Ditto

Let’s see...

He never won less than 9 games in 11years and UF sucked before that. He finished first or tied for first in the east 9 times. Won the conference 6 times. Won a national title. And what kind of fricking moron would say UT was down. UT was tough as hell back then. They went 9-2, 9-3, 9-3, 10-2, 8-4, 11-1, 10-2, 11-2, 13-0, 9-3, 8-4, and 11-2 in the years Spurrier was at UF.

Oh yeah, and then he went to USCe, a program who hadn’t won 10 games in over 20 years and had gone 0-11 within the last five, and won the sec east and ripped off three 11-win seasons in a row with three top ten finishes.

Surely that must be a troll.


He's no Vince Dooley though.
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