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Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:29 am
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:29 am
Nobody knows how the Harsin hire will turn out. Have to give them credit for making a change, and taking a chance. It will take him some time to get a few classes in, and Gus didn't leave him very much to work with

Don't expect much for the next couple of years, but down the road? Who knows?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24983 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:35 am to
If I'm AU, I'm not critical of the hire, but I'd be very critical of the decision to spend $21M to do it.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:37 am to
I agree with that, but it's their money. People gave us a lot of crap about spending $75M for Fisher but he's been worth it to the A&M fans and school

Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17019 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:37 am to
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and Gus didn't leave him very much to work with


Don't know where this comes from. Gus recruited top 10 almost every season. AU has the SEC FOY RB on roster (Bigsby who was a 5 star). Nix still has potential if he can get a line and a coach. AU has a talented WR corps, assuming some don't declare for the draft.

AU's biggest deficit is on the lines (both), especially the O-line.

But you're acting as if we're Vandy over here with no SEC players on the roster.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105405 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:37 am to
No need to defend.

The other fan bases really don’t have a clue how to rank this hire. Most AU fans are good with it and intrigued to see how it pans out.

This hire came out of nowhere and no one knew it was happening.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24983 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:40 am to
quote:

AU's biggest deficit is on the lines (both), especially the O-line.



Doesn't this sound familiar...
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20373 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:40 am to
Maybe but hardly a clear upgrade. Think that is what most Auburn fans are aggravated about. After Gus they had higher expectations. Don’t blame them.

If Auburn struggles under Harsin in y1 and y2... yikes.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18308 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:42 am to
As a business person, the whole thing seems like a mess to me. I was one of the few who criticized the Malzahn extension a few years back. This is a problem that just compounded itself. Better to lose a good coach than hang onto a bad one.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:43 am to
I thought they would do better as well - glad they didn't hire Freeze. Nobody knows a clear upgrade - we will see what Harsin's staff looks like. I mean, hell, NOBODY thought Pittman would be a good hire at Arkansas

You never know
Posted by OrangeAndBrew
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2020
927 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:46 am to
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glad they didn't hire Freeze

In all seriousness, what did freeze accomplish that gus didn’t? He beat Alabama twice, and was caught calling hookers for his players.

He is literally Gus with baggage.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79190 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Maybe but hardly a clear upgrade. Think that is what most Auburn fans are aggravated about. After Gus they had higher expectations. Don’t blame them.



I agree it's not clear, but the reality is that Gus-like results won't be the end of the world. It would mean an SEC title and a couple other realistic shots at SEC title/beyond.

It wasn't Gus overall that was the issue, it was the staleness of the program under Gus. Happens to most coaches/teams.

Most Auburn fans are enthusiastic about this too, BTW. I'd say it's 50% enthusiastic, 25% curious/WTF (but on board) and 25% disappointed.

It's probably the most unified we've been about a hire since Tubs, TBH.
Posted by wartiger2004
Proud LGB Supporter!
Member since Aug 2011
17816 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:51 am to
Yeah but much like Miles at LSU what was he going to cost the athletic department over the course of his contract with apathetic ticket sales and donations. The contract extension in 2017 was the dumbest thing our AD had done but we as fans had zero say in it. Gus had plenty of time to improve with multiple OC changes. I’m excited for something new.
Posted by Tjtennispro
ATL
Member since Feb 2018
262 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:51 am to
One of the few? I am a third generation Auburn Alum and I don’t know a single person on Earth that DIDN'T criticize the Malzahn extension. Not sure where you are getting your opinions.


I was one of the few who criticized the Malzahn extension a few years back. This is a problem that just compounded itself. Better to lose a good coach than hang onto a bad one.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18308 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:58 am to
Feel free to pull the thread up. I got downvoted to hell for saying it was a bad decision.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:59 am to
quote:

In all seriousness, what did freeze accomplish that gus didn’t? He beat Alabama twice, and was caught calling hookers for his players.


Freeze turned OM into a contender, and the drop-off when he left is apparent. Dude was a sleaze, but could coach. Kind of like Art Briles
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 11:00 am
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4337 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Freeze turned OM into a contender, and the drop-off when he left is apparent. Dude was a sleaze, but could coach. Kind of like Art Briles


There is a reason for such a drop-off other than just the coaching.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38775 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:20 am to
Does Harsin talk like them?
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:24 am to
Harsin is Midwest/West. No accents out here. Is that what you meant?
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
3384 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:26 am to
quote:

As a business person


Posted by HouseofWaffles
Member since Nov 2014
4651 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:29 am to
quote:

I was one of the few who criticized the Malzahn extension a few years back.


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