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re: if your body is in bounds, can you advance the ball forward while it's out of bounds?
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:08 am to Atlbear16
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:08 am to Atlbear16
Here’s the real reason: when you gain possession and leave your feet before touching out of bounds, the ball is placed where the ball crosses the out bounds marker.
The key here is the ball is placed where it crosses BECAUSE you aren’t in the field of play and do not maintain possession In The field of play
The key here is the ball is placed where it crosses BECAUSE you aren’t in the field of play and do not maintain possession In The field of play
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Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:09 am to DawginSC
I remember a Nick Marshall run, against Bama maybe...
He ran to the pylon. He jumped out of bounds before the pylon and before he came down out of bounds, he held the ball inside the pylon breaking the plane before he came down out of bounds.
They called him out at the 2 yard line.
Never got that. Refs really do suck at their jobs a lot though.
He ran to the pylon. He jumped out of bounds before the pylon and before he came down out of bounds, he held the ball inside the pylon breaking the plane before he came down out of bounds.
They called him out at the 2 yard line.
Never got that. Refs really do suck at their jobs a lot though.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:10 am to ScoggDog
I didn’t kill my argument because the runner maintained possession with feet in the field of play.
Their is a commissioning event when you leave your feet going out of bounds and do not come back in with possession of the ball in the field of play
Their is a commissioning event when you leave your feet going out of bounds and do not come back in with possession of the ball in the field of play
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 8:11 am
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:12 am to Atlbear16
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There’s a reason why you see QBs stretch the ball over in the field of play before they run out of bounds
Yeah ... because they're trying to get the most forward spot - at the moment they touch OOB. It's not dead until they touch their body out of bounds. If they stretch that ball out, then go backward a yard before they touch OOB ? Tough shite - they lose that yardage. It's all about the location at the ball - North / South - at the moment he player touches OOB.
Look, you're just talking in circles now. You know you're check-mated. Just be gracious about it. It's a confusing rule. They could certainly clean it up. But this is how it's done, in practice.
Personally, I like how Rugby does it better. You don't even score, in that game, until you touch the ball down in the end zone.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:12 am to Atlbear16
The easiest way to describe this where you see this every game… when a runner is going out out of bounds, they stretch the ball out in the field of
Play before going out of bounds
Play before going out of bounds
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 8:13 am
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:14 am to ScoggDog
In your theory, I can diagonally jump out of bounds from let’s say the 50 yard line…. The ball crosses the out bounds plane around the 49 yard line, but I land diagonally, out of bounds on the sideline around the 47.
I get the ball at the 47? NOPE
I get the ball at the 47? NOPE
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 8:15 am
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:16 am to Atlbear16
Has anyone else ever seen this play the Baylor guy wants to describe ? Has anyone ever seen the officials try to review the exact moment where the ball breaks the plane of the sideline, while in possession of a ball carrier ?
I have never seen this, in thirty years. The only time I've seen them do this is on punts. And then, honestly, it's pretty subjective. I've seen them get that one wrong by ten yards before.
I have never seen this, in thirty years. The only time I've seen them do this is on punts. And then, honestly, it's pretty subjective. I've seen them get that one wrong by ten yards before.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:17 am to ScoggDog
They review where it crosses the OOB plane ALL the time. There’s a reason a pylon cam (on the first down marker) is pointed in towards the field of play
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 8:18 am
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:19 am to Atlbear16
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In your theory, I can diagonally jump out of bounds from let’s say the 50 yard line…. The ball crosses the out bounds plane around the 49 yard line, but I land diagonally, out of bounds on the sideline around the 47. I get the ball at the 47? NOPE
Have you ever seen this ? Have you ever see a ball carrier jump, diagonally, three yards ?
No, you have not. You're literally making up theoretical bullshite now. But guess what, if some back on the sideline managed to jump forward three yards, landing with the shoulder pads OOB or something ?
They'd mark him down there, with some kind of guess as to where the ball was when he landed down OOB. And they wouldn't give a shite about this mythical plane you're trying to invent.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:22 am to ScoggDog
It’s not theoretical when it’s using logic. You’re saying I can jump diagonally forward from in bounds to out of bounds and the ball will placed at the upmost forward spot where the ball lands out of bounds.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:22 am to Atlbear16
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They review where it crosses the OOB plane ALL the time. There’s a reason a pylon cam (on the first down marker) is pointed in towards the field of play
The pylon cam on a first down marker ? Are you talking about the pylon came in the end zone. Because, again, they treat the end zone different than the sideline.
Maybe you get better TV coverage in Texas than we do. I've never seen this camera mounted on the first down marker. Anybody else ever seen this ? I guess everything really is bigger in Texas - including the TV packages.
That must be a hoot. You can see the picture sway as the fat asses on the chain gang try to keep up with the action. It would be awesome, watching everything bounce as they go out and measure a first down.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:23 am to ScoggDog
There’s a cam on the first down marker…. That’s what I meant
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:25 am to Atlbear16
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It’s not theoretical when it’s using logic. You’re saying I can jump diagonally forward from in bounds to out of bounds and the ball will placed at the upmost forward spot where the ball lands out of bounds.
That's how its done. You obviously don't like it - and I think you've found a neat little rules exploit. If you can find a world class long jumper to carry the ball.
Its how they spotted the ball all night last night. Give 'em a call. You apparently know better.
And make sure get ESPN to hook me up with this First Down Pylon Cam - or whatever the Hell it is you call it. I want to see that. Maybe on a split screen.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:26 am to ScoggDog
I see QBs stretch the ball over in the field of play all the time before they run out of bounds.
Why would they do that if it wasn’t advantageous?
Why would they do that if it wasn’t advantageous?
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:27 am to stephendomalley
Sounds to me like your a salty bitch 50-30
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 8:28 am
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:28 am to Atlbear16
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I see QBs stretch the ball over in the field of play all the time before they run out of bounds. Why would they do that if it wasn’t advantageous?
Because they're trying to get the best spot they can ... at the moment they touch OOB. This isn't hard. You're making it difficult ... but it's really not.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:28 am to SCDawg95
Yep, because when you are in the air you are not out of bounds until you touch out of bounds. His hand did not count, it as a great lay on his part.
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:31 am to ScoggDog
That’s not true, if the ball isn’t placed where it crosses OOB, then you would see diagonal jumping ALL the time
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:32 am to Atlbear16
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The ball was inbounds when he stretched it over
That was what they said in the ruling but after that they never showed it again... where did I leave my tinfoil hat?
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:35 am to Atlbear16
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That’s not true, if the ball isn’t placed where it crosses OOB, then you would see diagonal jumping ALL the time
You do see guys jump toward the first down marker, on close plays.
But you're exaggerating in your attempt to ... well, I have no idea what. It's not like you see guys gaining two and three yards while in flight OOB. If you did, the rule might get changed to what you describe.
What you see is a guy jumping to the marker, and landing a foot or two outside the sideline. They always mark him at the point he touched OOB, and they take a guess as to where the ball was when he touched.
Which, granted, is then adjusted ... at least in SEC play ... according to which team is higher ranked and most likely to advance to the CFP.
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