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If UF doesn't hire Dan, it wont be because they don't want him
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:19 am
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:19 am
Scott is the AD. He and Dan built something great at MSU. If UF doesn't hire Dan then it will be because he is happy where he is. Maybe he wants to go the Frank Beamer/Bill Schneider/Gary Patterson route as opposed to the Jim McElwain/Butch Jones route.
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:24 am to MSU5
There is something of value to be said about coaches wanting to create a legacy as oppossed to adding to one. Dan is a fairly ego driven individual. He is literally the biggest name in Mississippi State football history and part of me, in the most realistic way, believes that he wants to look back at his life and show what he built rather than enter a situation where he only may match the accolades of former coaches...ie spurrier, meyer. Dan has already won 2 national championships so I don't think that is really a huge factor in his hiring expectations.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 9:26 am
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:24 am to MSU5
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f UF doesn't hire Dan then it will be because he is happy where he is.
I don't buy it. It's been reported that his representation reached out to Oregon and LSU when those jobs were open--he's got a nice set up at State, but he's been there for a while and might want a new challenge.
McElwain got canned, in large part, because he was abrasive and didn't play well with others. This is the same reason Mullen never got a look the last two times the UF job came open.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:26 am to MSU5
well, Dan wanted the job a few years ago when Jim got it. And he wanted PSU when Franklin got it.
Mullen may well have come to love Starkville and decided that he wants to live there forever in a world where 10-2 is the ceiling and he will be the greatest coach in program history if he can just average 8+ wins.
Or, he may still have some professional ambition left and he might think that Florida being the better program with more resources and playing in the East gives him a better chance to make it to Atlanta and maybe the CFB playoff.
I'm sure Dan is on their top 3 list, but they may want to go another route. I can see how UF not hiring him will be viewed by MSU fans as "Dan loves us and just prefers it here" though.
Mullen may well have come to love Starkville and decided that he wants to live there forever in a world where 10-2 is the ceiling and he will be the greatest coach in program history if he can just average 8+ wins.
Or, he may still have some professional ambition left and he might think that Florida being the better program with more resources and playing in the East gives him a better chance to make it to Atlanta and maybe the CFB playoff.
I'm sure Dan is on their top 3 list, but they may want to go another route. I can see how UF not hiring him will be viewed by MSU fans as "Dan loves us and just prefers it here" though.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:27 am to logjamming
9 years and people still think Dan hates Starkville. This narrative is old. Starkville is a true college town. Yes, it pales in comparison to Athens or BR but it's apples and oranges imo.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:31 am to MSU5
Pretty easy to tell, just watch State's recruiting efforts. Recruiting basically stopped after the 2015 season because Mullen thought he was getting the Miami job until UGA fired Richt. Ended up missing out on 2 top 100 kids in his backyard because of that. If recruiting comes to a crawl, then he's gone (or at least thinks he is) and if not, then he's staying.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:34 am to Quicksilver
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Pretty easy to tell, just watch State's recruiting efforts. Recruiting basically stopped after the 2015 season because Mullen thought he was getting the Miami job until UGA fired Richt. Ended up missing out on 2 top 100 kids in his backyard because of that. If recruiting comes to a crawl, then he's gone (or at least thinks he is) and if not, then he's staying.
If you believe this, you're insane, but if it helps you sleep at night so be it.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:34 am to logjamming
Stricklin was a tight A in money... Dan's agent reached out for him to create chatter to get him a raise. That's what good agents do.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:35 am to logjamming
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McElwain got canned, in large part, because he was abrasive and didn't play well with others. This is the same reason Mullen never got a look the last two times the UF job came open.
Maybe it was more that Mullen and Foley didn't like each other.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:39 am to MSU5
How fickle are the fans in Starkville? He could be a lifer. Fans shed a tear when he finally retires sort of thing.
Or they dump him at the next 4-8 season.
Or they dump him at the next 4-8 season.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:40 am to TDFreak
4-8 ain't happenin anytime soon. Fitz coming back next year and then y'all gotta endure 3 years of Keytaon Thompson who is probably the most talented player Mullen has had on campus as a freshmen.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 9:42 am
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:42 am to BobLeeDagger
Don't forget the lateral move statement he made about Geoff Collins leaving for UF.
Dan probably likes Starkville more than Gainesville. UF fans have a lot of "passion" and will voice their displeasure. 6-7 seasons are unthinkable at UF
Dan probably likes Starkville more than Gainesville. UF fans have a lot of "passion" and will voice their displeasure. 6-7 seasons are unthinkable at UF
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:57 am to bamasgot13
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well, Dan wanted the job a few years ago when Jim got it. And he wanted PSU when Franklin got it.
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:58 am to MSU5
Florida will do better than Dan. They’ll get Frost or Kelly. Probably their choice between the two.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:03 am to ohiovol
From a resumé standpoint, Frost is not a better coach than Mullen. I'll give you Kelly tho.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:09 am to BobLeeDagger
SECN and former Gator AA Chris Doering on ESPN radio said that he believes UF makes Gary Patterson tell them NO before looking at anyone else.
Patterson has turned down plenty of good offers in the past. Errrybody had reached a point where Chris Peterson was never leaving Boise, and he eventually left. Is Patterson finally ready to try out the water in the SEC?
Patterson has turned down plenty of good offers in the past. Errrybody had reached a point where Chris Peterson was never leaving Boise, and he eventually left. Is Patterson finally ready to try out the water in the SEC?
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 10:10 am
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:11 am to bamasgot13
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well, Dan wanted the job a few years ago when Jim got it.
This is just factually incorrect.
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And he wanted PSU when Franklin got it.
Penn State and Notre Dame are the only two programs that scare me because those are his dream jobs.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:12 am to MSU5
If he’s offered the UF job, he’s taking it.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:12 am to TDFreak
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Or they dump him at the next 4-8 season.
Mullen's next 4-8 season will be his first 4-8 season.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:14 am to Vecchio Cane
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SECN and former Gator AA Chris Doering on ESPN radio said that he believes UF makes Gary Patterson tell them NO before looking at anyone else.
Patterson has turned down plenty of good offers in the past. Errrybody had reached a point where Chris Peterson was never leaving Boise, and he eventually left. Is Patterson finally ready to try out the water in the SEC?
This would be the best case scenario IMO.
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