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re: If the program you cheer for claimed titles like Auburn
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:28 am to Stidham8
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:28 am to Stidham8
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Auburn has TWO losses in their 9 National Championships.
Also Auburn has some reason to claim them as they were awarded by someone. What evidence do you have.
As has been said here TAMU, Bama, Ole Miss and others have claimed them for years. We just joined the parade late. The most bogus NC claimed will always be Bama's 1941, third in SEC, 19th in AP with losses to MSU and Vandy.
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:29 am to Gatorbait2008
This league is full of schools that claim bullshite titles in an era where it literally was the opinion of numerous "polls"... all of which were highly subjective bullshite. Who gives a frick? Now a richer school can buy a title. Face it, if your ego needs real integrity behind the trophy in your case or banner in your rafters, you probably don't have it.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:31 am to Gatorbait2008
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:33 am to jangalang
Really. Then compare SOS rankings yearly please.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:39 am to Gatorbait2008
To answer the OP, Alabama currently only claims 5 national titles that were not awarded by polls widely accepted by all across the football landscape, and all 5 of those were from before the "poll era." Outside of 1941, no one contends with Alabama's claim to national title holder for those seasons. Alabama was awarded national champions of the 1941 season by the Houlgate System, which is recognized by the NCAA as a "major selector" of national championships.
I'm not going to lower myself to Auburn's new "standard," but Bama could easily claim these 5 more championships which are listed in the NCAA record books before we even started expanding into the mythodology Auburn is employing:
1945: Alabama went 10-0-0 (including wins against Keesler Air Force Base and the Pensacola Naval Air Station) and overpowered 11th-ranked Southern California 34-14 in the Rose Bowl. The Cadets of the U.S. Military Academy, however, racked up five wins against ranked teams and were given the #1 slot by the Associated Press, then by far the most widely-respected selector. In their retroactive American Football Coaches Association's Blue Ribbon Commission awarded the 1945 championship to Oklahoma A&M (now Oklahoma State University) in 2016.
1962: Alabama finished the season 10-1-0, second to Ole Miss in the SEC. The Tide went on to shut out the Big 8 champion Oklahoma Sooners 17-0 in the Orange Bowl. Alabama was ranked fifth in the final AP poll, released on December 3. In the first-ever #1 vs. #2 bowl match-up, 11-0 Southern California beat 8-3 Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl to cement the Trojans' championship.
1966: Alabama finished the season 11-0-0 and defeated 6th-ranked Nebraska 34-7 in the Sugar Bowl. Notre Dame and Michigan State both went 9-0-1 in the regular season and were ranked #1 and #2 in the AP poll, released in December. Alabama was the only undefeated and untied team during the 1966 season.
1975: At 11-1-0, Alabama was crowned SEC champion and beat #7 Penn State in the Sugar Bowl. Ohio State was ranked #1 going into the postseason, but lost to UCLA 23-10 in the Rose Bowl. No. 2 11-1-0 Oklahoma, which beat #4 Michigan (8-2-2) in the Orange Bowl was honored as champion by the final, postseason AP poll.
1977: Alabama went 11-1-0 and would have shared the SEC crown with Kentucky, except that the Wildcats were ineligible due to NCAA rules violations. Entering the postseason at #3, the Tide defeated 8th-ranked Ohio State 35-6. The 5th ranked Notre Dame Fighting Irish (11-1-0) beat the top-ranked Texas Longhorns (11-1-0) to leapfrog Alabama for the postseason AP championship.
I'm not going to lower myself to Auburn's new "standard," but Bama could easily claim these 5 more championships which are listed in the NCAA record books before we even started expanding into the mythodology Auburn is employing:
1945: Alabama went 10-0-0 (including wins against Keesler Air Force Base and the Pensacola Naval Air Station) and overpowered 11th-ranked Southern California 34-14 in the Rose Bowl. The Cadets of the U.S. Military Academy, however, racked up five wins against ranked teams and were given the #1 slot by the Associated Press, then by far the most widely-respected selector. In their retroactive American Football Coaches Association's Blue Ribbon Commission awarded the 1945 championship to Oklahoma A&M (now Oklahoma State University) in 2016.
1962: Alabama finished the season 10-1-0, second to Ole Miss in the SEC. The Tide went on to shut out the Big 8 champion Oklahoma Sooners 17-0 in the Orange Bowl. Alabama was ranked fifth in the final AP poll, released on December 3. In the first-ever #1 vs. #2 bowl match-up, 11-0 Southern California beat 8-3 Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl to cement the Trojans' championship.
1966: Alabama finished the season 11-0-0 and defeated 6th-ranked Nebraska 34-7 in the Sugar Bowl. Notre Dame and Michigan State both went 9-0-1 in the regular season and were ranked #1 and #2 in the AP poll, released in December. Alabama was the only undefeated and untied team during the 1966 season.
1975: At 11-1-0, Alabama was crowned SEC champion and beat #7 Penn State in the Sugar Bowl. Ohio State was ranked #1 going into the postseason, but lost to UCLA 23-10 in the Rose Bowl. No. 2 11-1-0 Oklahoma, which beat #4 Michigan (8-2-2) in the Orange Bowl was honored as champion by the final, postseason AP poll.
1977: Alabama went 11-1-0 and would have shared the SEC crown with Kentucky, except that the Wildcats were ineligible due to NCAA rules violations. Entering the postseason at #3, the Tide defeated 8th-ranked Ohio State 35-6. The 5th ranked Notre Dame Fighting Irish (11-1-0) beat the top-ranked Texas Longhorns (11-1-0) to leapfrog Alabama for the postseason AP championship.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 9:48 am
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:40 am to imjustafatkid
You have enough titles l..you are cut-otf till the SEC catches up.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 9:41 am
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:40 am to PrattvilleTiger
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Alabama claims titles on years they lost their bowl game. At least we're not doing that.
Claim away.
Nah, you're just claiming titles when you were BANNED from playing in bowl games. TOTALLY better.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 9:41 am
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:44 am to Gatorbait2008
Dont wanna hurt your feelings.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:45 am to skrayper
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Nah, you're just claiming titles when you were BANNED from playing in bowl games. TOTALLY better.
Being banned didnt stop Oklahoma from winning a title. Explain.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:45 am to Gatorbait2008
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You have enough titles l..you are cut-otf till the SEC catches up.
Hey, just trying to add fuel to the OP. We could claim a whole lot more if we started counting them like Auburn is.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:46 am to Gatorbait2008
quote:Not a single undefeated season in sight
2019 - 11-2
2009- 13-1
2008- 13-1
2006- 13-1
2001- 10-2
1998- 10-2
1997 - 10-2
1996- 12-1
1995- 12-1
1985- 9-1
1984- 9-1
1923- 6-1-2
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:47 am to jangalang
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Being banned didnt stop Oklahoma from winning a title. Explain.
I'm not the one who bitched about titles being awarded before bowl games. Take it up with your fanbase.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:47 am to jangalang
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Being banned didnt stop Oklahoma from winning a title. Explain.
The AP selected them as national champions in that season. Now do Auburn.
ETA: That was also the last season any team was ever crowned national champion without playing in the postseason. Is Auburn's claim before or after that season?
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:49 am to imjustafatkid
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The AP selected them as national champions in that season. Now do Auburn.
It's almost like banned isnt the issue. Whimsical voters that drift with the wind are in fact the issue.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:50 am to jangalang
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It's almost like banned isnt the issue. Whimsical voters that drift are in fact the issue.
Nope.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:51 am to skrayper
quote:You cant even stay on point long enough to hit the commode.
I'm not the one who bitched about titles being awarded before bowl games.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:51 am to imjustafatkid
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Nope.
Ok then. Thanks for proving being banned isnt the issue.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 10:15 am to Gatorbait2008
Alabama would have 31-33 if they claimed them like Auburn does.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 10:24 am to Gatorbait2008
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2019 - 11-2
No, there was a playoff in 2019 and you didn't even make the final 4. LSU was, without a doubt, the best team (15-0). I don't think anyone disputes that.
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2001- 10-2
Miami went 12-0 that year and beat #4 Nebraska in a bowl, so clearly their claim is stronger. Florida didn't even win the East that year (Tenner won it). Florida lost to Tenner heads up.
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1998- 10-2
What? Tennessee beat Florida head-to-head and finished undefeated. How do you propose that Florida deserves it?
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1997 - 10-2
Nebraska (13-0) and Michigan (12-0) both finished undefeated and somehow did not play each other in a bowl. Michigan won the AP title, so Nebraska is the team that got robbed, not Florida. Nebraska finished #1 in the coaches poll, so they actually should claim a share of the title (not sure if they do or not). 1997 is actually similar to 2004. Nebraska got screwed in '97 and Auburn got screwed in 2004 (both teams finished 13-0).
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1995- 12-1
You made the BCS title game and lost by 50 points. Spurrier said 1995 Nebraska was the best team he's ever seen. When your own head coach says Nebraska was the best team, you don't have much of a case.
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1985- 9-1
1984- 9-1
Florida was on probation both years. (To be fair, Auburn was on probation in 1993 when they went 11-0. However, AU was the only team in America to finish undefeated that year). In 1984 BYU finished 13-0 and in 1985 Oklahoma was the best team.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 10:25 am to jangalang
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You cant even stay on point long enough to hit the commode.
Let's see if I can dumb it down enough for you. Gimme a second to slam a hammer into my head enough times to get the full "jangalang" experience.
1. Auburn fan says "Alabama claims titles despite losing bowl games"
2. I reply stating Auburn is claiming titles where they were banned from bowl games (meaning we have no idea if they would have won or lost)
3. Jangalang, not reading the earlier posts, uses the "Oklahoma defense" - missing the point entirely (that Auburn fans claiming that Alabama shouldn't claim titles).
4. Jangalang then claims everyone else is missing the point.
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