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re: If Stafford wins a Super Bowl, is he a Hall of Famer?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:29 pm to multicampus
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:29 pm to multicampus
They sure don't hurt..
Gotta ask, what are you doing here?, is obvious with a question like that you are clueless in subjects pertaining to sports.. Of course fukkin stats matter..
Gotta ask, what are you doing here?, is obvious with a question like that you are clueless in subjects pertaining to sports.. Of course fukkin stats matter..
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:33 pm to Gumdrop
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No, you did not. You might have something of a life if you were degreed
LMAO!
Classic deflection and here comes the juvenile name calling.
I merely pointed that having 4 Superbowl MVP's from the same school was a significant accomplishment and more than any other SEC school (which it is) and you retort with some smartass
troll.
Every other SEC school would be doing the same if their ex players accomplished the same feat.
I'm assuming you're about 15 and have limited information about CFB and the history of the NFL.
Gumdrop????
You can do better Phan
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:34 pm to RD Dawg
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Barry Sanders would be the only other player in the conversation.
Megatron
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:36 pm to RD Dawg
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Calvin won't even finish in the top 30 in receiving yards or TD's
He had almost 12000 yards in 9 seasons
Him retiring out of nowhere while he was still one of the best in the game like Barry Sanders did doesn't make him less of a player. He was a 1st ballot HOF player, and Stafford may not even get there
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:37 pm to mikehoncho69
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1. Barry Sanders
2. Calvin Johnson
3. ???
Dick "Night Train" Lane
As a rookie in 1952, Lane had 14 interceptions, a mark that remains an NFL record more than 65 years later.
He played in the Pro Bowl seven times and was selected as a first-team All-NFL player seven times between 1956 and 1963.
His 68 career interceptions ranked second in NFL history at the time of his retirement and still ranks fourth in NFL history.
He was also known as one of the most ferocious tacklers in NFL history and was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1974.
He was named to the National Football League 50th Anniversary All-Time Team in 1969, named to the 75th Anniversary All-Time Team in 1994 and unanimously named to the National Football League 100th Anniversary All-Time Team in 2019.
In 1999, he was ranked number 20 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players.

Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:45 pm to DaWGfan01
Ehhh yeah no those pre-60s guys were in a much smaller NFL so those Pro Bowls and all don’t carry much weight to me.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:49 pm to RD Dawg
quote:You're the only one calling names.
Classic deflection and here comes the juvenile name calling.
quote:I have posted actual information relating to the post subject.
I'm assuming you're about 15 and have limited information about CFB and the history of the NFL.
You have only posted.."Dawg might win the MVP...will I get a prize?" That and whined because I laughed at your pitiful, no-life arse over it.
Scream for your Mom to bring you another Hot Pocket, and try to post something on the actual subject.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:52 pm to RD Dawg
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Do what?
Barry Sanders would be the only other player in the conversation.
quote:You might want to STFU and read the thread. It's obvious the only history you have is, "Stafford played for the Dawgs...he's the greatest because I have a Herschel jersey."
I'm assuming you're about 15 and have limited information about CFB and the history of the NFL.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:55 pm to Gumdrop
Looking at Stanford’s career, can you find a single point in it in which he was considered a top 3 QB for that year? The stats are huge but he’s never been in the discussion of best or top 3 QBs. He’s just forgettable in an era of Farve, Manning, the other Manning, Brady, and now a cast of younger up and comers.
With his stats he’s an answer on jeopardy but not a HOFer at this point.
With his stats he’s an answer on jeopardy but not a HOFer at this point.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:22 pm to RD Dawg
1.Barry Sanders
2.Megatron
3.Tecmo Bowl Jerry Ball
4.Lomas Brown
5.MAYBE Stafford (I'm sure I'm forgetting some other candidates)
Edit: Already realized I forgot "Night Train". He'd be well ahead of Stafford, of course.
2.Megatron
3.Tecmo Bowl Jerry Ball
4.Lomas Brown
5.MAYBE Stafford (I'm sure I'm forgetting some other candidates)
Edit: Already realized I forgot "Night Train". He'd be well ahead of Stafford, of course.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:43 pm to Smokeyone
Maybe if he plays long enough to just end in the top 5 of all the passing categories, but I think a guy should be considered the best at his position for at least a couple of seasons and in the top 5 at his position for 4-5 years to really be HOF worthy.
Seems like we went from the Montana, Marino, Elway era directly to the Brady, Manning, Rogers, Brees era with Favre kinda in between.
Stafford could get lost in that shuffle unless he wins multiple Super Bowls and/or the stats can't be ignored.
Usually if a player makes the NFL's All-Decade team, they're a HOF lock.
Past that I'd look at how many times they were named All Pro and, to a lesser extent, how many times they were named to the Pro Bowl. I'm not sure what his numbers are on any of those. Someone mentioned it earlier and there's some validity to it...his passing numbers are big because Detroit was almost always playing from behind.
Seems like we went from the Montana, Marino, Elway era directly to the Brady, Manning, Rogers, Brees era with Favre kinda in between.
Stafford could get lost in that shuffle unless he wins multiple Super Bowls and/or the stats can't be ignored.
Usually if a player makes the NFL's All-Decade team, they're a HOF lock.
Past that I'd look at how many times they were named All Pro and, to a lesser extent, how many times they were named to the Pro Bowl. I'm not sure what his numbers are on any of those. Someone mentioned it earlier and there's some validity to it...his passing numbers are big because Detroit was almost always playing from behind.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:47 pm to Dawgfanman
No, he doesn’t give the impression of a HOF QB. There are QBs who have won a Super Bowl that aren’t in the HOF.
He would need to win a few more big games and create a big time player reputation.
He would need to win a few more big games and create a big time player reputation.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:01 pm to boston vol
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No he isn’t
1. Barry Sanders
2. Calvin Johnson
3. Joe Schmidt
4. Bobby Layne
5. Could be Stafford, could also be Alex Karras or Lem Barney
The best CB in NFL history may have been Dick Night Train Lane. He was voted the 30th best player in NFL history. First team All-Pro seven times. Held the NFL record for INT's in a season for 65 years. He set that record in a TWELVE game season. As a rookie. He has, hands down, the best highlight video of any defensive player in NFL history.
Night Train Lane
1. Dick Lane
2. Barry Sanders
3. Lem Barney
4. Calvin Johnson
5. Bobby Layne
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:09 pm to AGGIES
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No, he doesn’t give the impression of a HOF QB.
What does this even mean?
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There are QBs who have won a Super Bowl that aren’t in the HOF
And their stats don't come close to Staffords'
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:17 pm to mikehoncho69
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1. Barry Sanders
2. Calvin Johnson
3. ???
The Lions are a poverty franchise. It's not like Stafford is competing with players from the 49ers or Steelers
Sure. If your only football knowledge is since the 90s. They have 20+ guys in the HOF. The vast majority having multiple All-Pro and ProBowls. Stafford and his one ProBowl is nice but there are some really good Lions in the history of the franchise.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:26 pm to DaWGfan01
Well, let's look at this resume:
-Rookie of the Year
-One of only 10 NFL QBs to have consecutive 3-TD pass seasons
-Led the NFL one season for highest QB rating
-Had the record for most consecutive three-TD pass games for over 20 years until it was broken by Petyon Manning
Those are really good stats. Is this QB considered an NFL-great?
-Rookie of the Year
-One of only 10 NFL QBs to have consecutive 3-TD pass seasons
-Led the NFL one season for highest QB rating
-Had the record for most consecutive three-TD pass games for over 20 years until it was broken by Petyon Manning
Those are really good stats. Is this QB considered an NFL-great?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:29 pm to RD Dawg
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And their stats don't come close to Staffords'
Kurt Warner only played 12 seasons in the NFL, 11 as a starter. He won two MVPs, was all-pro twice, and went to 4 pro bowls. He also won a super bowl and went to another. He has not yet been selected for the HOF.
Phil Simms is pretty comparable, assuming Stafford wins the super bowl. 2x pro bowler, 2x super bowl champion, comparable stats for his era, not in the HOF
Right now, Stafford is in the Matt Ryan and Phillip Rivers group, a lot of volume stats but not much to show for it; however, those two have gone to a lot more pro bowls than Stafford has. Rivers will probably be selected to the HOF eventually, Ryan probably not, if I had to guess
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:41 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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They have 20+ guys in the HOF. The vast majority having multiple All-Pro and ProBowls. Stafford and his one ProBowl is nice but there are some really good Lions in the history of the franchise.
They have 22. Only two of them their careers after the AFL-NFL merger. Only 8 of the 22 played past 1970. Only 2 of their HOFers have taken a snap in the last ~ 45 seasons.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:48 pm to RD Dawg
Don’t be so sensitive. It means that if you ask people that aren’t UGA homers, the answer is “No”.
But he can change the narrative over the next couple of years. Hope he does.
But he can change the narrative over the next couple of years. Hope he does.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:48 pm to Dawgfanman
I believe he will be, yes. I do think that he needs to continue being consistent for a few more years, but the answer is yes.
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