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re: If Mississippi only had one marquee school, would it be a powerhouse?
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:49 pm to Colonel Ingus
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:49 pm to Colonel Ingus
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Can we merge the coaching staffs and have Lane and Mike Leach as both co-HC/co-OC? It would be wildly entertaining…
Mike leach wouldn’t touch my offense if I were lane kiffin
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:51 pm to Dawgholio
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“Marquee”
What are you trying to point out?
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:01 pm to deeprig9
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The recruiting base is there, but being split up between two schools, not to mention having to compete with neighbors poaching some of your instate talent, they can never get over the hump. I think if they joined forces they'd be equals with LSU, Bama, and UGA.
Back in the 1950's and '60's Ole Miss more than held their own against the SEC.
They were voted national champions three times in 1959, 1960 and 1962. They did something right back in those days.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:03 pm to deeprig9
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Mississippi only had one marquee school, would it be a powerhouse?
It’s an interesting and fun question, but the answer is likely a hard NO
Clemson has managed to fight their way into to discussion of “top football schools” and they are in the exact same situation
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:08 pm to dcbl
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It’s an interesting and fun question, but the answer is likely a hard NO
Clemson has managed to fight their way into to discussion of “top football schools” and they are in the exact same situation
I think you are outthinking yourself, which is something I've seen you do often. Clemson and USC are in the exact same situation, but the differentiating factor is Clemson plays a piss poor schedule in the regular season. Sure, the SECe is not a powerhouse division right now other than UGA, but any division in the ACC is even worse. I don't think Clemson has any NC's under Dabo with an SEC schedule, not even an SECe schedule.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:26 pm to deeprig9
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If Mississippi only had one marquee school, would it be a powerhouse?
Yes. If you had combined Freeze’s offense with Mullen’s defense in 2014 when we were both ranked in the top 5 we would have won a natty.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:53 pm to dcbl
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It’s an interesting and fun question, but the answer is likely a hard NO
Clemson has managed to fight their way into to discussion of “top football schools” and they are in the exact same situation
S Carolina's football program is almost as bad as Miss St and the state has a lot more people and money than the state of Mississippi
Posted on 8/6/22 at 7:27 pm to Dude20
quote:SEC East is still a top 3-4 division in the country so that’s weird
If they played in the weak SEC East, absolutely
Posted on 8/6/22 at 8:54 pm to JetDawg
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“Back in the 1950's and '60's Ole Miss more than held their own against the SEC.
They were voted national champions three times in 1959, 1960 and 1962. They did something right back in those days.”
And before that State had a strong football team over about a 10 year period mid-late 30’s to the late 40’s.
So it can be done. In other sports we have had success. Football is a challenge but over the last 10-12 years we have held our own in the conference and during Coach Sherrill’s first 10 seasons through the 1990’s we were strong before it turned S on him in the early 2000’s.
Both squads recruiting is good obviously not in the top sphere but State or Ole Miss with a favorable schedule, some luck, staying healthy can challenge and possibly win the SEC. Obviously Saban has had a stranglehold on it over the last 13 years with a team like LSU or Auburn bumping them out of the conference title.
Georgia under Kirby is a force but I don’t see them dominating post - Saban like Bama has done recently.
I think post-Saban the SEC will be much more competitive. Alabama will still be very good but they will be less dominant.
USM used to syphon off some good players but those days are over.
IMO if Leach and Kiffin stay for another 8-10 years then each school will be successful with an occasional shot to have a special season and win the division/championship.
“Back in the 1950's and '60's Ole Miss more than held their own against the SEC.
They were voted national champions three times in 1959, 1960 and 1962. They did something right back in those days.”
And before that State had a strong football team over about a 10 year period mid-late 30’s to the late 40’s.
So it can be done. In other sports we have had success. Football is a challenge but over the last 10-12 years we have held our own in the conference and during Coach Sherrill’s first 10 seasons through the 1990’s we were strong before it turned S on him in the early 2000’s.
Both squads recruiting is good obviously not in the top sphere but State or Ole Miss with a favorable schedule, some luck, staying healthy can challenge and possibly win the SEC. Obviously Saban has had a stranglehold on it over the last 13 years with a team like LSU or Auburn bumping them out of the conference title.
Georgia under Kirby is a force but I don’t see them dominating post - Saban like Bama has done recently.
I think post-Saban the SEC will be much more competitive. Alabama will still be very good but they will be less dominant.
USM used to syphon off some good players but those days are over.
IMO if Leach and Kiffin stay for another 8-10 years then each school will be successful with an occasional shot to have a special season and win the division/championship.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 8:59 pm to deeprig9
A combined baseball school would be a powerhouse and I don’t think there is any debate about that. Football would be good and would contend for the SEC title every few years, maybe a national title now and then. Basketball would still be pretty mediocre, not a lot of basketball talent in MS
Posted on 8/6/22 at 9:02 pm to deeprig9
I’m going to say yes. Sometimes I’m jealous of states that don’t have professional sports. The fanbases are more passionate.
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