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re: I think the BCS did the right thing, Fair ? No. Right? Yes.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:44 pm to breeze
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:44 pm to breeze
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Les put bama at number 2? He's not scared. Suppose it is a good thing he isn't such a pussy.
Look at it this way. By Saban placing OK state at 4, this gave a better chance for Bama to play LSU, rather than get relegated to a lesser bowl. Maybe he isn't scared either...
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:32 pm to East Coast Band
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:38 pm to Max Rockatansky
Posted on 12/6/11 at 12:09 am to breeze
Working on a few more. Hopefully have them done by the weekend.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 12:17 am to MoreOrLes
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The Bowl Championship Series (BCS) is a five-game showcase of college football. It is designed to ensure that the two top-rated teams in the country meet in the national championship game
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NO WHERE DOES IT SAY 2 BEST TEAMS
Top rated = best. Very simple
Number one and two are the best and the top rated. BCS did a perfect job once again.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 12:35 am to Duzz
I have to admit being greedy as a LSU fan this year
I really wanted LSU to play another top ranked team who they hadn't yet played... not just because I think rematches are generally an option of last resort in the BCS NCG... but also because if LSU had beaten say an undefeated Stanford or a 1 loss OkS they would have had an unbelievable resume (bama, arky, oregon, wvu, and a new highly ranked bowl opponent = 3 bcs conf champs and maybe four top ten teams)
Assuming they beat Bama again it will devalue how good of a team people think Bama had years from now
I really wanted LSU to play another top ranked team who they hadn't yet played... not just because I think rematches are generally an option of last resort in the BCS NCG... but also because if LSU had beaten say an undefeated Stanford or a 1 loss OkS they would have had an unbelievable resume (bama, arky, oregon, wvu, and a new highly ranked bowl opponent = 3 bcs conf champs and maybe four top ten teams)
Assuming they beat Bama again it will devalue how good of a team people think Bama had years from now
Posted on 12/6/11 at 12:51 am to Duzz
No...
Under the old system Bama wouldn't even be ina BCS bowl. Now we are putting them ahaead of the Big 12 champs who have a much better resume'. Bama got to the game based on their loss.
Imagine interviewing for a job and spouting how minimal your failures were in comparison to others.
Yep.. that is what it came down to
Under the old system Bama wouldn't even be ina BCS bowl. Now we are putting them ahaead of the Big 12 champs who have a much better resume'. Bama got to the game based on their loss.
Imagine interviewing for a job and spouting how minimal your failures were in comparison to others.
Yep.. that is what it came down to
Posted on 12/6/11 at 12:57 am to Duzz
For the people who say the bcs is designed to match the two best teams, then why is it that when you lose is more important than who you lose to. If the regular season bama/lsu game was two weeks ago, and osu had lost to isu in week three instead of week 11, osu would be in the title game. Fact
Posted on 12/6/11 at 12:57 am to ShermanTxTiger
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Under the old system Bama wouldn't even be ina BCS bowl
There were no BCS bowls in the old system. If you are referring to major bowls, I would guess Bama would absolutely be in a major bowl. Outside of the very few tie-ins, the bowls chose the teams they wanted. Normally this meant the big name teams got the big bowls. A one loss, second ranked Bama team would be in high demand.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 12:57 am to ShermanTxTiger
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Imagine interviewing for a job and spouting how minimal your failures were in comparison to others.
Losing to LSU is like losing out to a another major competitor on a blockbuster sale.
Losing to Iowa State is like failing to use a stapler.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 12:58 am to Roberteaux
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For the people who say the bcs is designed to match the two best teams, then why is it that when you lose is more important than who you lose to. If the regular season bama/lsu game was two weeks ago, and osu had lost to isu in week three instead of week 11, osu would be in the title game. Fact
Like most things in life, what have you done for me lately...
Posted on 12/6/11 at 1:00 am to Roberteaux
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For the people who say the bcs is designed to match the two best teams, then why is it that when you lose is more important than who you lose to. If the regular season bama/lsu game was two weeks ago
The BCS simply facilitates the match-up. The voters, both coaches and Harris are the ones that make the real decisions. The coaches have always had a vote, long before the BCS was around.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 1:04 am to arwicklu
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Losing to LSU is like losing out to a another major competitor on a blockbuster sale.
Go with it Bro... Not merits just lesser degrees of failure. Hell it has work so far.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 1:04 am to Roberteaux
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For the people who say the bcs is designed to match the two best teams, then why is it that when you lose is more important than who you lose to. If the regular season bama/lsu game was two weeks ago, and osu had lost to isu in week three instead of week 11, osu would be in the title game. Fact
That being said if Stanford had number 2 in the computers and OSU was switched, then voters would have tried to vote Stanford up instead of OSU. Voters try to influence the answer instead of voting how they really feel. They knew who had a chance to jump Bama. A vote for Stanford was known to be a waste vote so they got kicked o the curb. That isn't what the system is supposed to be about either.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 1:12 am to ShermanTxTiger
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Go with it Bro... Not merits just lesser degrees of failure. Hell it has work so far.
Bama has the number 1 defense in the country, pounded a highly ranked Arkansas team by 24, and held LSU to 9 points... I don't think it's all failure. OSU lost to ISU and has a defense ranked in the 100's. They allowed as many points versus Tulsa and Louisiana-Laf as bama did in 8 SEC games combined. You can push the resume BS all day but Bama dominated everyone except LSU which was a 3 point game. OSU lost to ISU to make them Bowl eligible and barely beat teams like aTm. If you truly look at the whole resume, then they don't look that good.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 1:15 am to arwicklu
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Bama has the number 1 defense in the country
Beat three teams with winning records. Congrats!
If you feel good about it
Posted on 12/6/11 at 1:17 am to arwicklu
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ou can push the resume BS all day but Bama dominated everyone except LSU
You've dominated everyone because youve played no one. Seems like the resume argument has applied every year except this one
Posted on 12/6/11 at 1:29 am to ShermanTxTiger
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Beat three teams with winning records. Congrats!
Beat 6 bowl eligible teams. We should go ahead and count the 6-6 teams since OSU has trouble with them. Switch Kansas State with Miss State. You think K State is top 10 with Bama, LSU, Arkansas on their schedule. K State lost to OU by 41. Baylor got blown out by the Aggies. OSU lost to a bad Iowa State team. OU lost to Texas Tech. When you actually look past the records you see a bunch of mediocre teams that randomly lay eggs because the play no defense. How does a top 10 team lose by 41 to a borderline top 20 team? How does a top 15 team get blown out by an unbanked Aggie squad? How does a top 5 team lose to a 28 point dog? They don't play defense and they get drilled when their offense doesn't show up.
Plus everyone here says LSU is the greatest ever, yet it went into overtime a 6-6 tie.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 1:29 am to bona fide
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he coaches have always had a vote,
They certainly have. And in the bcs era, some coaches, namely nick saban, use their vote to further their own agenda. Its hard to articulate into words how pathetic it was for saban to vote osu 4th. Im convinced he would have voted them 15 but that simply would have been too obvious
Posted on 12/6/11 at 1:31 am to arwicklu
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Beat 6 bowl eligible teams
*golf clap
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