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re: I guess the SEC office is no longer even trying to remain unbiased

Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:01 pm to
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:01 pm to
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One or both of you were trash in all 4 of these games


In which year were both teams trash?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:02 pm to
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But yet with our bad record of late, and our middle of the road coach we've still been able to pull in 10-15th ranked recruiting classes. This before the new facilities were built.


yeah that's not flawed at all
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:04 pm to
[quote]In which year were both teams trash?[/quote

The answer....none of them.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:06 pm to
2012 SOS - per Phil Steele's web site:

LSU - #23
Bama - #53

TAMU - #1 - WTF? Other than UF - who have they played?
OM - #7
UF - #9
RKansas - #10
AU - #13
KY - #16
USCe - #18

Looks like Bama has a damn easy schedule this year compared to the bulk of the SEC.
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15446 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:07 pm to
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BigOrangeBri


Can you make me one of your sig pic's but with a State player taking down an OM player?
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:09 pm to
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but there's still enough national interest to put the game on in prime time over a better match up of ranked teams like LSU-A&M


It's common knowledge they did it to avoid splitting the Texas audience with UT-Baylor on ABC
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:09 pm to
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Can you make me one of your sig pic's but with a State player taking down an OM player?


Ha, I would if I could, but I kinda stole it from another poster on a Tennessee forum.

Its from picjoint.com. maybe you can find one.
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 7:11 pm
Posted by TideSatchel
Member since Nov 2011
2581 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:10 pm to
lol, whatever you need to tell yourself, guy.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
26871 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:11 pm to
That was not how it was preseason. Bama's schedule was stronger until Michigan and Ark fell apart. If Bama wins out and plays UF or SC in the sec cg our SOS will be higher.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:12 pm to
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Looks like Bama has a damn easy schedule this year compared to the bulk of the SEC.


We don't get points for playing Bama like other teams do.
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 7:12 pm
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:13 pm to
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Katy Tiger

You left out something:

Immediately I wanted to get a calculation on who plays the toughest schedule according to last year's win/loss records which is the way the NCAA figures who will play the toughest schedule in 2012. This is NOT my method and the NCAA will probably officially release these calculations in a week or two but I wanted to get a jump start on the information.

At the beginning of the season, the NCAA usually releases a rating of each team’s schedule based on their opponents’ win/loss record from the previous season, This is a good method but it does have its obvious flaws.


The first flaw is basing the ratings on opponents records from the previous season. Let’s look at a couple of examples. At the start of 2007 I had Illinois rated as one of the top teams in the Big Ten and they went on to knock off #1 Ohio St and play in the ROSE Bowl. My ratings had them as an above avg opponent at the start of the year and they finished the regular season #13 (AP). Using 2006’s record as the criteria for determining the strength of an opponent’s schedule, however, you would count them as a 2-10 team! In 2008, I had teams like Ole Miss and Minnesota on my Most Improved Teams List meaning I thought they were bowl caliber but using the previous year’s record you would have counted them as 3-9 and 1-11 teams (both made bowls, Ole Miss finished #14). On the flip side of the coin, Notre Dame was in an obvious rebuilding year in ’07 yet was still counted as a 10-3 team if you based strength of schedule on 2006’s record and they were far from a January bowl team in 2007 at just 3-9!


The second flaw is basing it on pure overall records. If a team plays an FCS (IAA) school that was 11-1 in 2007, that counts as a MUCH tougher game in the NCAA ratings than facing a team like Alabama who was 7-6 in ‘07 but #1 at the end of ‘08 regular season! My ratings had Bama ranked as a much tougher team than any FCS foe. To give you an example from 2002, my ratings foresaw that teams playing Kansas St were facing a Top 10 team based on my preseason ratings. The NCAA strength of schedule ranking rated a game against Kansas St as just a game vs a 6-6 opp (2001 record). Kanas St finished #7 AP for 2002 and walloped their opp’s by an avg of 45-12, not exactly numbers from a typical middle-of-the-road opponent.

On the flip side let’s look at 2009’s Ball St team. They were in an obvious rebuilding year and my power ratings had them only winning 2 or 3 games. My methods gave teams credit for a weak foe when facing Ball St but basing it on the previous year’s record, teams were given credit for playing a 12-2 team which is what they finished in 2008! That is a MAJOR flaw!

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Here is Phil Steele's ranking: LINK

Bama is #11

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:14 pm to
It's business 101. They get comparable ratings for most of their time slots so they want to avoid splitting up viewers between games as much as they can so as to maximize them as much as they can. If one Texas team is locked in at 7 on ABC and another Texas team is playing, it's stupid to pit them against that game.

But go on thinking it's because the country is so enamored with the UT-Bama "rivalry" if that's what you want.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39766 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:17 pm to
17 pages later and you're still angry. Good shite man
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

It's business 101. They get comparable ratings for most of their time slots so they want to avoid splitting up viewers between games as much as they can so as to maximize them as much as they can. If one Texas team is locked in at 7 on ABC and another Texas team is playing, it's stupid to pit them against that game. But go on thinking it's because the country is so enamored with the UT-Bama "rivalry" if that's what you want.


Crock of shite. A&M is an afterthought in Texas and no way that game is going to get top billing on ESPN, certainly not with BAMA/UT available.
Posted by TideSatchel
Member since Nov 2011
2581 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:20 pm to
Did you just say they get comparable ratings at 11 am and prime time?
Posted by Hewligan
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
89 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:21 pm to
Why do Bama fans think ANYONE but them give two shits about "The Third Saturday in October?"

Hype up a cupcake as much as you want, you have played NOBODY.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:23 pm to
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Why do Bama fans think ANYONE but them give two shits about "The Third Saturday in October?" Hype up a cupcake as much as you want, you have played NOBODY.


Bama -Tennessee : Primetime on ESPN

LSU -AM : breakfast with Pam Ward
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41850 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:24 pm to
Can we just give LSU a trophy so their fans will quit crying?....just like a kids little league team where everyone is "special"
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:24 pm to
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Why do Bama fans think ANYONE but them give two shits about "The Third Saturday in October?"


Why are LSU fans the only ones that have an issue with it? Florida doesn't have a problem playing LSU. Auburn and UGA don't have a problem playing each other. If anyone has a reason to complain about the Bama-UT game it's UT, but they're not whining at all. Must be something in the water in Baton Rouge.
Posted by Hewligan
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
89 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 7:26 pm to
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Bama -Tennessee : Primetime on ESPN LSU -AM : breakfast with Pam Ward


Because the media totally hasn't been going down on you guys since the beginning of time, right?
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