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re: How would you feel if Brian Kelly was your coach?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:43 pm to dchog
Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:43 pm to dchog
It’s like being in purgatory I guess.
It could be worse — a lot worse (see recent hires at Florida, Florida State, Auburn, Arkansas, Oklahoma, USC, Michigan, etc.)
It’s kinda of like hiring a better James Franklin. You’re gong to win a lot of games. You’ll lose a few, but it’s unlikely you’ll have disastrous seasons (see Florida, FSU, Auburn). You just have to hope all the stars align for that perfect year, otherwise you’re having a lot of 9,
10 win seasons.
Simply put, it could be so, so much worse.
It could be worse — a lot worse (see recent hires at Florida, Florida State, Auburn, Arkansas, Oklahoma, USC, Michigan, etc.)
It’s kinda of like hiring a better James Franklin. You’re gong to win a lot of games. You’ll lose a few, but it’s unlikely you’ll have disastrous seasons (see Florida, FSU, Auburn). You just have to hope all the stars align for that perfect year, otherwise you’re having a lot of 9,
10 win seasons.
Simply put, it could be so, so much worse.
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Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:56 pm to High Life
I would completely stop watching cfb.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:57 pm to TrNabs
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Miserable
Charlie Strong and Tom Herman were Homeruns.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:05 pm to Scoob
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That's great and all, the problem is you had the exact same record WITH all of those players. Hence, the Brian Kelly patented ceiling.
Did you not read about the defense? Yes, we had 3 DL go to the draft... we also didn't have a DL coach. Lost just before the season started to crazy 1 in a million health issue. And it turned out the rest of the staff couldn't pick up the slack, and by doing so they in turn neglected their own position groups (which still weren't as talented as you want yet). So we had an abysmal defense, and still went 9-3.
That's now addressed, we have new guys who seem to be putting in a good scheme, but need the talent (linebackers and secondary) to really make it great. The defensive line, expected to be the weakest link, has played well.
I'll say it again- I'm ok with where we're at. Kelly was not coming in to bump a good program up like Kirby did at UGA, despite what some unrealistic fans might think. He was brought in to rebuild the program from basically the ground up, so that it lasts. We don't need to have 1 great run and then be 6-6 again, we need to set the basement high, and build from there. That takes time.
Is it worth 10 million dollar a year HC and some top pay for assistants for this? It would be better to get someone young and upcoming who have proven to build other programs and succeed.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:13 pm to mikelbr
And people forget LSU's past hires 
Kelly will never win a national title, they say.
He played for 1 at Notre Dame.
Les Miles was a mediocre coach at Oklahoma State, I'd say Gundy has surpassed him there. At LSU, he won 1 title and played for another.
Ed Orgeron was fricking awful at Ole Miss. He won a title at LSU, mostly still riding the remnants of Miles' program structure.
If you had to choose between Kelly, Miles and Orgeron as your head coach, who would you pick?
Kelly will never win a national title, they say.
He played for 1 at Notre Dame.
Les Miles was a mediocre coach at Oklahoma State, I'd say Gundy has surpassed him there. At LSU, he won 1 title and played for another.
Ed Orgeron was fricking awful at Ole Miss. He won a title at LSU, mostly still riding the remnants of Miles' program structure.
If you had to choose between Kelly, Miles and Orgeron as your head coach, who would you pick?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:15 pm to High Life
I would be embarrassed to see my coach complaining to the refs about the defense blitzing while my team was trying to score.
That was one of the most pathetic things I’ve seen from a coach. “Are you going to ALLOW them to keep playing while we try to score?!”
That was one of the most pathetic things I’ve seen from a coach. “Are you going to ALLOW them to keep playing while we try to score?!”
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:15 pm to GaryGator
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I don't like Coach Kelly and his faaaamulllllleeee. But, I'd take him over the retard we are currently stuck with
Maybe you should wait for Indiana HC to get the call from Florida AD.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:17 pm to NWLA_Bama
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If a fan is satisfied with winning 9-10 games per year and never winning a national title then he's a very solid hire. But he's not a NC type of coach. He reaches his ceiling relatively fast and doesn't go any higher. That's what LSU hired.
That is not what most LSU fans were saying. They were saying he will win a championship at LSU.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:20 pm to High Life
Not good.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:22 pm to High Life
I'd feel like a Brillo Pad that my wife had used by mistake.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:24 pm to TrueLefty
quote:I'd say yes... when the alternative is pay somebody 6-7 mil a year and not sniff 9 wins.
Is it worth 10 million dollar a year HC and some top pay for assistants for this?
quote:And who would this be?
It would be better to get someone young and upcoming who have proven to build other programs and succeed
Napier?
Harsin?
You can't just pluck a guy from a mid-major and drop him at an LSU, and expect he will automatically succeed. Or even handle the pressure.
Look at this year... look at the preseason predictions ON THE RANT. Lots of 8-4, some 9-3. Most people, while sober and looking at who left, who was returning, and who was coming in, thought this team would take a step back.
These same people are now losing their minds because ... LSU is playing to expectations, perhaps a bit better on the D Line and a bit worse with the running game. We knew we had no secondary, we knew we had serious questions at LB. Nobody in their right mind EXPECTED this team to be a title contender, even if they wanted them to be.
And now they want to fire Kelly because... it's what we thought it would be.
Kelly can handle that, I figure guys like Deboer etc can too. A lot of guys might collapse.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:24 pm to Trumansfangs
You know, for a mistaken purpose.
Just go with the flow.
Just go with the flow.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:35 pm to Murph4HOF
Ed O owns Kirby
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:39 pm to hwnd
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I would be embarrassed to see my coach complaining to the refs about the defense blitzing while my team was trying to score.
This is when LSU fans, the ones still watching the game, realized Brian Kelly might not be suited for the SEC.
Brian Kelly’s best season at LSU may end up being the one with those 39 Ed Orgeron players. They still had some dog in them on defense.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:42 pm to Scoob
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Is it worth 10 million dollar a year HC and some top pay for assistants for this?
I'd say yes... when the alternative is pay somebody 6-7 mil a year and not sniff 9 wins.
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It would be better to get someone young and upcoming who have proven to build other programs and succeed
And who would this be?
Napier?
Harsin?
You can't just pluck a guy from a mid-major and drop him at an LSU, and expect he will automatically succeed. Or even handle the pressure.
Look at this year... look at the preseason predictions ON THE RANT. Lots of 8-4, some 9-3. Most people, while sober and looking at who left, who was returning, and who was coming in, thought this team would take a step back.
These same people are now losing their minds because ... LSU is playing to expectations, perhaps a bit better on the D Line and a bit worse with the running game. We knew we had no secondary, we knew we had serious questions at LB. Nobody in their right mind EXPECTED this team to be a title contender, even if they wanted them to be.
And now they want to fire Kelly because... it's what we thought it would be.
Kelly can handle that, I figure guys like Deboer etc can too. A lot of guys might collapse.
How about Kansas HC? Indiana HC? There are plenty more to go around. Your AD was lazy and just went with the same route that he did hiring Jimbo Fisher. Similar pay and a 10 year contract and now it is starting to look like a bad deal for LSU. Alabama went with Washington HC. LSU need to first focus on getting an AD to do a better job.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:54 pm to High Life
I think a lot of us thought he'd be what he's always been and so far that's proved out.
Maybe a little worse but I attribute that to a harder SEC.
I'd be worried he'd be a consistent 9-11 win coach that wouldn't bring home the hardware. Is that better than having a 5-7 coach? Hard to say. It's easier to fire the 5-7 coach (in theory)
Maybe a little worse but I attribute that to a harder SEC.
I'd be worried he'd be a consistent 9-11 win coach that wouldn't bring home the hardware. Is that better than having a 5-7 coach? Hard to say. It's easier to fire the 5-7 coach (in theory)
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:18 pm to High Life
Honestly don’t think he is long term fit for LSU.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:18 pm to High Life
I'd melt to be honest.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:23 pm to TrueLefty
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LSU need to first focus on getting an AD to do a better job.
Yeah, but LSU "stole" their current AD to do a better job.
They're very proud of his accomplishments in women's sports: basketball and baseball.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:31 pm to TrueLefty
quote:We can go round and round with this, and it's clear neither of us will change our approach
How about Kansas HC? Indiana HC? There are plenty more to go around
Yes, there were a lot of guys LSU could have hired. Most of them aren't going 9-3 out of the gate with the dumpster fire LSU had become, so we wouldn't be having this discussion. Either we'd be grateful for now having a shot at 9-3 and potentially a trip to Atlanta (however remote), or we'd be seriously exploring who the next guy is going to be.
Kelly isn't Jimbo, LSU doesn't seem to have the locker room cancers Jimbo had. He isn't talking shite in the preseason with Saban and Kiffin the way Jimbo did, and not back it up.
quote:Alabama- the premier program in the nation, with talent at worst top 3 (behind maybe UGA, very slim chance of Ohio State)- was able to hire a NC contender from Washington, which is now rebuilding? Shocker. Kiffin would have them at the same spot I think.
Alabama went with Washington HC
We're not Alabama.
quote:Yeah, Woodward's awful. He hired a baseball coach who's won a national title, a women's basketball coach who's won a national title, promoted the women's gymnastics coach who won a national title, and hired a football coach who's gone 9-3 both of his complete seasons, and is looking at 9-3 again.
LSU need to first focus on getting an AD to do a better job
What a shmuck.
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