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re: How overrated is LSU's offense??

Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:41 am to
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:41 am to
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one looked great first half AU last week
Re-watch the first half. AU moved the ball pretty easily on the ground and stalled out drives when the QB missed open receivers. LSU's D is a big ?

Offense is legit though. D isn't bad, but not nearly the caliber of prior LSU D's.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:43 am to
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Offense is legit though. D isn't bad, but not nearly the caliber of prior LSU D's.


Yes, because I try to be a realistic fan this is dead on
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:45 am to
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Real answer they are legit. O-Line is solid as opposed to last year and Mett has the poise we thought he should have last year. Hill is a beast also really big at 220 and fast D I'm not so sure one looked great first half AU last week and then either took the foot off the gas or AU exposed some weakness. I don't think they relax this game if its the first case. If it's the second we can only hope they get it cleaned up. Yes TCU isn't as good as we thought but their D is still legit the game they lost to TT they had them shut down in the second half until the one long pass play and the ridiculous series of missed calls at the end (I watched the game). All boils down to O is legit D has concerns should be a close good game. I would wish your team good luck but I can't do it. So here's to an well played injury free game that the bulldogs ultimately loose.
Finally someone doesn't get all butt hurt over the questions. I think yall got a good running game and that should help w/ Mett, but if yall stay pass happy, I think we can get pressure on him. I would like for our offense to run the ball and control the clock, and use more play action. IF we could just use the 2 TE set, with Conley and Bennet, we could run so many plays out of that formation and still go hurry up. But alas, that wont happen. I think it will be close, but I could also see a blowout for either team.
Posted by Charter n Coke
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:45 am to
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LSU - 54 UGA - 24 LSU has the best offense in SEC history. They take their foot off the gas every game. They could run for 500 yards if they tried. Their WRs score a TD every time they touch the ball, unless they dont want to on purpose. Their Oline will never let up a sack until backups are in. Mett rapes everyone he touches



Got ourselves a posi-tiger, boys
Posted by Charter n Coke
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:48 am to
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Finally someone doesn't get all butt hurt over the questions



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How overrated is LSU's offense??


Nobody would be butthurt if it wasn't such a clown question bro.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:50 am to
there's no doubt LSU's offense has improved. It would not have to improve much to be lots better than last year. I saw some things against Auburn that bothered me though. They got pressure on Mett a few times and he went straight down. Our line is tough but was beaten on those occasions and of course Mett is not elusive at all. Our run game was great in the first half but not so much in the second. I think a stout defense could very well slow them down. UGA doesn't have a stout d so...
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
35656 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:54 am to
You will find out soon enough...
Posted by roach3
Just moved to LA TOUR!!!
Member since Dec 2009
2825 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:56 am to
Our offense seems to be vastly improved from last year. The running game is as good as last year if not better due to the improved passing game setting up the play action. The defense has taken a step back due to youth on the team. The coaching is still great the players need more experience and time together to gel as a whole unit. Now with that being said we let TCU run a kickoff back. We haven't played Clemson or SC, I think Georgia is more tested so far. In all actuality I hope we will but I don't think anyone really knows where we stand until after the dust settles Saturday. I really feel this is a much better team than last year as a whole because off the offense but we will find out Saturday.

Here's to a good game
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:59 am to
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Mett is not elusive at all


Definitely one of the weaker parts of his game I think. He could work on that a little. He has good size so maybe if he's not more elusive, he could become a little tougher to take down.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25967 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:06 am to
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Your pothead punt returner, throw the ball to the ref before crossing the plane for a td.


First down from the one. Kenny Hilliard 1 yd touchdown. There, I just whatif sports ya. Also, Bacarri Rambo probably gets run over again on that hypothetical play.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25967 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:10 am to
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Re-watch the first half. AU moved the ball pretty easily on the ground and stalled out drives when the QB missed open receivers.


A robust 101 yards of offense in that half and a bunch of failed fourth down conversions. What am I looking for again?
Posted by LSU4eva7
Member since Sep 2013
310 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:16 am to
you will find out saturday
Posted by Wideman
Arlington, Virginia
Member since Jul 2005
11721 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:16 am to
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Ya know, when Oregon fans say that about the LSU game in 2011 LSU fans say "we caused those fumbles and we blew them out"
while I hate the argument... to be fair, LSU did cause Oregon's turnovers, while LSU's fumble inside the 10 yard line against TCU was a fumbled hand off between the QB and RB - not caused by the defense... in fact, Blue had a huge hole on that play.

the kickoff return argument is stupid. we gave up a kickoff return, and it was earned.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 10:18 am
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:19 am to
It can't be overrated, the offense struggled against shitty teams last season.

We have improved big time on offense. Is it the best in the country or conference? No.

Is it markedly better than last year? Absolutely.

Does this make LSU scary as frick to play? Of course.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54694 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:19 am to
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A robust 101 yards of offense in that half and a bunch of failed fourth down conversions. What am I looking for again?

Look for the running backs getting 5-7 yard chunks on all but 2-3 carries and receivers running wide open and being missed badly by the QB. Also look for plays that the LSU D made.

(Also, the dropped punt snap counted as like -20 yards, fwiw).

Not taking anything away from LSU nor its win, just pointing out that there are questions concerning LSU's D.

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a bunch of failed fourth down conversions.
fumbled snap and missed an open receiver. Not talking about AU's mistakes, just making a comment about LSU's defense.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 10:21 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25967 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:24 am to
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WDE24


Of course not. I'm just pointing out that your post was essentially, if things were different things would have been different. No doubt about that. I'm sure of Marshall hits a receiver we don't blitz as much on the perimeter to stop the read run. Also, if you guys put up like 200 yards passing, LSU probably would have more aggressively defended the pass. The real issue is LSU did not try to defend what it regarded Auburn would have difficulty doing in the rain. It worked to the tune of 100 yards in the first half. That's what anyone would see if they watched it as I did.
Posted by Wideman
Arlington, Virginia
Member since Jul 2005
11721 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:24 am to
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Not taking anything away from LSU nor its win, just pointing out that there are questions concerning LSU's D.
I don't know why people are arguing this. LSU's defense didn't dominate the line of scrimmage like we are used to seeing. Auburn shot themselves in the foot and LSU stepped up and made some plays when it needed to, but it was hardly a dominating performance, even in the first half.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54694 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:28 am to
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Of course not. I'm just pointing out that your post was essentially, if things were different things would have been different.
No it wasn't. It was a response regarding the LSu/UGA game and noting that LSU's D had trouble even slowing down AU's running backs. ETA: Sorry, the post about the LSU/UGA game was in the other thread, but that is where my comment came from.

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I'm sure of Marshall hits a receiver we don't blitz as much on the perimeter to stop the read run. Also, if you guys put up like 200 yards passing, LSU probably would have more aggressively defended the pass.
This is why I referenced re-watching the first half. There was no difference from the very first series to the end of the game in LSU's ability to stop the run. The circumstances really weren't the issue, IMO. Ignore that if you want, but it was just an observation about LSU's run defense against AU and how that might play out against UGA.

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The real issue is LSU did not try to defend what it regarded Auburn would have difficulty doing in the rain. It worked to the tune of 100 yards in the first half. That's what anyone would see if they watched it as I did.
They would also see AU running the ball very effectively and wondering if Gurley and UGA will have similar success. Which was my point (eta: noticed I was more clear about that point in the other thread).
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 10:30 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25967 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:31 am to
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There was no difference from the very first series to the end of the game in LSU's ability to stop the run.


That's abjectly false.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54694 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:37 am to
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That's abjectly false.

Re-watch the first half and talk to me about it. Mason had 5-8 yards on every carry except 1 in the first half. Payne was at 4-5 yards per carry on all but 1. Marshall was getting 4-5 on designed QB plays.

It isn't false, you just don't remember it because of the way the game played out. I rewatched the first half yesterday.
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