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re: How is Mark Richt still the HC at UGA?

Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:44 am to
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:44 am to
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Without the title we've still been a better program under CLM. U Vandy fans don't belong n this conversation


The argument being made in the original post would still apply. And this Vandy fan isn't asking for your permission to be "n" this conversation, so frick off. It's not like you personally won a damned thing for LSU's football team, so your sense of entitlement is laughable.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11009 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:46 am to
Head to head don't mean shite. Let's talk trophies in the last decade.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41175 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:53 am to
Tennessee post 2005 is a much better job than any of those listed. A no doubt top 10 job nationally at that time.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:57 am to
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Head to head don't mean shite. Let's talk trophies in the last decade.

Thanks to Miles having the biggest horseshoe ever up his arse in 07.
Posted by lsufancy63
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
798 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:34 am to
Yes on offense LSU beat Georgia in every way except the score, but we had 3rd and Chavis!!!
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28042 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:47 am to
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JStanDawgFan


Thank you. I hate when LSU fans get on Miles for "not going to more championships". Seems like the fact that Saban and Meyer did so in short work, makes the blind to the fact that it is got damn crazy hard to just go to a title every 5 years.

I mean I'm 25 and I can't believe 30, 40, 50, and even 60 and older fans who have seen the shitty seasons. Seen decades of mediocre play or a full decade of bottom dweller status. These guys should feel comfortable with a 10 win season. I mean seven years of double digit victories in a 10 year span. You can be proud of the fact that you have went to 3 conference championships, won 2, went to 2 national championships, won one, and your worst season is 8-5. At least half of the FBS teams would consider that a good, and a 3rd would consider it damn good. That's after losing 18 players in 2 years to the draft, then losing your starting QB, 2 WRs, RB, and LG, all who started several games, and nearly all were stars. Those players were replaced by kids with damn near zero experience.

When you got people saying "Ol' two loss Les" and "here we go, 10 wins again, f**k Les" (paraphrasing that one ), there seems to be people not living in reality. I mean, what LSU has, is pretty much rich people problems.
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:16 am to
All I know is that we were 9-1 against UGA the 10 meetings before Richt was hired and we are 4-10 since. Sooooooooooooo, I hope they can him soon because it could get MUCH worse for them if they make a crap hire.
Posted by THWG247
Member since Jun 2015
68 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:28 am to
^^^X2 he owns GT, UT, and AU
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 9:30 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:29 am to
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All I know is that we were 9-1 against UGA the 10 meetings before Richt was hired and we are 4-10 since. Sooooooooooooo, I hope they can him soon because it could get MUCH worse for them if they make a crap hire.


How many 5-7 seasons has TN had the last 10 years ?
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22752 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:50 am to
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Seems like the fact that Saban and Meyer did so in short work, makes the blind to the fact that it is got damn crazy hard to just go to a title every 5 years.


Could not agree more. So many things have to happen just right, especially before the four team playoff. Most of those championship teams had at least one loss, had they occurred later in the year, they would have had little shot. Likewise, the teams had to depend on other schools blowing games late in the year. I am not discounting those teams as "lucky", just commenting on how difficult it is and how that makes those feats impressive, but very, very difficult to repeat.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
55764 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:53 am to
He's actually as good as anyone they have ever had. Georgia has never really been a championship program. If Richt ever had a Herschel he would win a NC but so would anyone else. Richt is not a championship coach but he is a class act and represents the program well.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88618 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:55 am to
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He's actually as good as anyone they have ever had.


Idk if this was meant as a flame or not (knowing you, it's hard to tell), but I agree. I have thought for a while now that richt is the best coach we've ever had.

Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
55764 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:04 am to
It's not a flame, I think he is a good coach but he is an exceptional person in my opinion. I would have no problem with my son playing for a man like Richt. I have just never thought he was a championship coach but still a good coach.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5778 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:05 am to
How many times can you people crap on Mark Richt for not being Nick Saban or Urban Meyer? Nobody is at the level of those guys.

Richt has done everything he can except win a natty. You'd think the guy went 7-5 every year the way people talk about him. Wait no, that's Tennessee that does that.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26507 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:05 am to
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Idk if this was meant as a flame or not (knowing you, it's hard to tell), but I agree. I have thought for a while now that richt is the best coach we've ever had.

Agree with this. IMO, Georgia's program has had some operational issues that really have handicapped Richt (or at least made it unreasonable to expect that he'd do much better). Some of those are likely in part his fault, but more of them are at the administrative level. UGA has to get that stuff fixed regardless of who the coach is.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:13 am to
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e's actually as good as anyone they have ever had. Georgia has never really been a championship program. If Richt ever had a Herschel he would win a NC but so would anyone else. Richt is not a championship coach but he is a class act and represents the program well.



I have been in a pissing contest with UGA fans the last week, but the truth is they should be a championship program. The have the recruiting base second maybe only to FL, they have as much money as any team in the SEC and the fan support to go with it. The biggest issue over the last 25 years has been coaching and a failure to go after the best coach available. Call it arrogance or stupidity, but they have hired a former player with zero HC experience, a 1AA Coach and an Offensive Coordinator with zero HC experience. They all have been good enough to have double digit win seasons, but none have been able to take them to the next level. If UGA ever gets it right with their selection of a HC, the rest of the SEC better look out.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5778 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:16 am to
Listen Auburn, it's not like you guys have hit home runs in the coaching department. The one and only reason you have a natty is Cam. Period, end of story. If he never gets kicked out of Florida, this soap box you stand on never gets delivered to the plains, so give it a rest.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 10:17 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88618 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:18 am to
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they have hired a former player with zero HC experience,


which everybody proclaimed a mistake from the outset. That was a really bad hire.

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a 1AA Coach


On the face of it this wasn't an awful hire. We also had a confirmed yes from someone else before he backed out and had to settle on Donnan. But Donnan won huge in 1AA and had an exciting offense.

One other thing to keep in mind during the goff/donnan years is that that period of our history, which could be looked at as average at BEST, also coincided with 2 of the all-time greatest runs in both UF and UT's history. Both those teams were probably top 5-7ish programs of the entire decade, and both played in our division. Sometimes you just have to admit that other people are better than you, and even if we had made better hires in the 90s, it's pretty likely that UT/UF would have still been better than us

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and an Offensive Coordinator with zero HC experience.


which turned out to be a tremendous hire. That guy won the division 3 times in his first 5 years and 2 SEC titles.

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none have been able to take them to the next level.


Richt has taken us close. We've knocked on teh door a few times, but if you're "next level" is simply winning a natinoal title then yes you're correct.

My outlook is the same as some of those paterno/mack brown/etc type stories...if you consistently win at a high level and continue to put yourself in position to win, eventually you'll get a shot. That's my hope anyway.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26507 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:20 am to
I don't think it's necessarily about the head coach. However, I do think UGA's pattern of conservative hires is symptomatic of the bigger issues within the program that have held it back.
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2880 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:23 am to
10 million at year at Pete Carroll?
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