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re: How does your endowment compare? Ranking the SEC

Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:52 pm to
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The OP wanted to talk about endowments. Think about the amount of money in the US under management by what are supposed to be institutions of education.


In an $18 trillion economy, I don't think universities maintaining a cushion and using the interest to help keep the place running is a particularly big deal. And these institutions do, in fact, provide an education. Hell, until about 20 years ago, they provided access to resources normally only available to people in convenient range of three or four of the largest libraries in the country. And asking the librarian for the best texts to study a specialized field was never going to be half as effective as asking a professor in the same field.

Even now, the average person goes to wikipaedia to learn stuff that was written by people who studied the subject and wanted to disseminate the information. Or to make up egregious lies. Whichever floated their boat.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6290 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

University of Alabama System Endowment Fund Posted by Richard C. WilsonFundsNo Comments Name: The University of Alabama System Assets Under Management: $3.2 Billion (Source: University of Alabama Systemom 6/30/2013) Annual Report: The University of Alabama System Financial Report 2012-2013



LINK
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58975 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:57 pm to
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With our endowment, why can't we hire a good coach? Lots of buyout money there.


Endowments are restricted to just academics.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
69752 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

Endowments are restricted to just academics.



lsu takes the aggies to school on the football field every year
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:17 pm to
Don't know how endowments relate to college experiences, but I'd still matriculate at UGA knowing what I know about each school.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24838 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:28 pm to
I'd honestly like to see how much these endowments have changed in the last decade. Bama at 3 honestly surprised me. We're beating Walmart, Tyson, and Jerry money. I figured y'all would be fourth after Florida.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58975 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:29 pm to
Berea College has a billion dollar endowment and tuition is free.

This is how it should work yet 99.9999% of colleges in the USA do not work this way.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:31 pm to
I'm guessing I am endowed 3" more than 95% of the SEC.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:37 pm to
Isn't Vanderbilts unknown because they're private?

Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:39 pm to
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Isn't Vanderbilts unknown because they're private?


Disclosure isn't mandated by law. That doesn't mean numbers can't be voluntarily disclosed.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61817 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:41 pm to
No one is going around forcing private citizens to whip out their dicks and measure them. But if yours is big you might just volunteer anyway
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:49 pm to
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No one is going around forcing private citizens to whip out their dicks and measure them. But if yours is big you might just volunteer anyway


When you're right, you're right. But try telling that to the people at the DMV when I was renewing my license.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24838 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:58 pm to
quote:

I'm guessing I am endowed 3" more than 95% of the SEC.


Nobody is impressed with the Shanghai Electrical College's endowment.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12256 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 12:02 am to
Normally I'd say this is an off-season thread, but since our season is over, I'll allow it.
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2490 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 12:02 am to
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University of Alabama System Endowment Fund Posted by Richard C. WilsonFundsNo Comments Name: The University of Alabama System Assets Under Management: $3.2 Billion (Source: University of Alabama Systemom 6/30/2013) Annual Report: The University of Alabama System Financial Report 2012-2013


I just took a quick look at that document.



1) It counting the entire University of Alabama System

2) Your counting a lot of stuff that isn't normally included in a university's endowment calculations.

3) In the Document you linked it says
quote:

The University’s endowments experienced a decrease
of $56.0 million in fiscal 2013 with a September 30
value of $617.6 million.



quote:

The University of Alabama System's financial endowment was valued at $1.2 billion in the National Association of College and University Business Officers' 2015 listings, up 0.1% from its 2014 value. UA's portion of the system's endowment was valued at $659 million in September 2015


Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58975 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 12:19 am to
My understanding is Alabama's system is split between

Birmingham (where they have top flight medical) so a big chunk of the endowment

Huntsville (think of them as Georgia Tech)

Tuscaloosa (think of them as UGA)
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 12:52 am to
Aggies always inflating their endowment with the PUF fund.
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2490 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 1:06 am to
endowments.com Top 500

I assume this is your source

This website has a lot of inconsistencies.

Also, the Texas A&M's system endowment is actually undervalued here. Its actually 10 billion dollar. However, Aggies know thier endowment is total bullshite. The state of Texas is directly funding it through its Permanent University Fund.
quote:


Understanding PUF: What is the Permanent University Fund?

First, the Texas Constitution stipulates that Texas A&M gets one-third of the benefits of the PUF and the University of Texas gets two-thirds. The PUF consists of two pieces – the 2.1 million acres of land that are dedicated to it, and the return on investment of the revenue produced on those lands. The revenue that gets the most attention, understandably, comes from the production of oil and gas. Tracts of land are leased to oil companies that pay royalties on whatever oil they produce.

The Texas Constitution stipulates that this money flow directly into the PUF, which functions as a permanent endowment. This endowment is managed by a 501(c)(3) corporation, the University of Texas Investment Management Company (UTIMCO), under the authority of the UT System Board of Regents.

The Permanent University Fund Lands also generate a smaller but significant amount of “surface” revenue by leasing tracts for grazing, hunting, wind farms and other purposes such as easements for pipelines and electricity distribution lines. Unlike the oil and gas revenue, this money goes straight into the Available University Fund (AUF). I’ll discuss the difference between PUF and AUF in a moment.


Absolute bullshite Aggies



This is the proper order


1. Texas A&M: $10,477,102 (With government assistance)
2. Vanderbilt: $4,133,542
3. Florida: $1,555,703
4. Texas A&M: $1,387,623 (Without government assistance)
5 Tennessee: $1,106,924
6. Kentucky: $1,142,722
7. Georgia: $1,004,987
8. Arkansas: $948,679
9. Missouri: $852,300
10. LSU: $851,833
11. Alabama: $659,000
12. Auburn: $641,993
13. South Carolina: $625,186
14. Ole Miss: $606,387
15. Mississippi State: $449,106

This list excludes university systems and I removed the last 3 zeros to make it easier to read.

Note*
The Texas A&M system makes no distinction between College Station and the other universities under the same name. They all share the same endowment fund.
2015 NCSE Endowment Market Values.pdf
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 1:21 am
Posted by TexAgChill
Member since Mar 2015
2450 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 1:49 am to
quote:

This website has a lot of inconsistencies.


Wrong. There are no inconsistencies on this site that you're aware of. But, of course you know that, which is why you gave no examples.

Perhaps you should add back in the last 3 zeros, and throw in an extra couple hundred thousand if you like. It's just a different shade of the same situation. Everyone knows this is a moving target. But, I think you deep down you understand.
Posted by TechDawgs
Dallas via Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
387 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 2:08 am to
Tight stat homey. Alumni get a cut of the endowment so drinks are on the ags boys!!
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 2:14 am
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