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re: How did LF7 or Dalvin Cook not win a single award?

Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38597 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:17 pm to
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Get your fricking facts straight. I am sick and tired of hearing this lame arse excuse from most of the jack arse fans on this site. Before I will go on I will say that Henry deserves every award he has received. But, for everyone saying that Fournette didn't show up in November is a bunch of shite and it's sicking how everyone including the media has tossed this kid to the curb!

To have him #7 right now in the Heisman voting as of today is pathetic to this young man. He broke the single season rushing record at LSU(77') and still leads the NCAA in rushing yards per game. Now, his stats from the month of November being "you" along with everyone else who has said he disappeared in November.

389 Rushing Yards 2 TD's
151 Receiving Yards

Stats not even close to someone who so called disappeared in the Month of November.

LSU's 4 opponents in November:

Alabama
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Texas A&M

Alabama's 4 opponents in November:

LSU
Miss St.
Charleston Southern
Auburn


Worth repeating.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33045 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:17 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 3:19 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38597 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:18 pm to
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Like who?


Marshall Faulk
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33045 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:19 pm to
Yes LSU had a tough schedule in November, but other than Alabama those defenses weren't great.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38597 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:20 pm to
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Henry did on offense. Multiple times. Just sayin.


No he didn't.

I'm gonna venture a guess here - you loved LSU when Saban was here, bitched about Miles from the day of the '05 Tennessee game forward, and started buying Alabama merchandise in 2007.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33045 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:21 pm to
M Faulk is a lot?
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1649 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:21 pm to
I'm not sure what your point is? A few pages back Henry's auburn and Florida performances were explained as defenses improve over the season. So which is it?

Why don't you give us the stats? And why just rushing? Catches count too, don't they?

And Include Florida, auburn and miss state too if you don't mind. I'm sure each teams teams defense just happened to be exponentially better when Bama played them
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33045 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:27 pm to
I'm not looking up all that shite for you.

You don't think the Auburn defense was just a little bit better the last week of Nobember than they were in September? I mean, they quit in that game and were scared to tackle. They didn't even know how to tackle.

And between AnM, Arkie, and Ole Miss, which was the most formidable defense?
I mean they are good, but including a 7 win Arkie and a terrible AnM team as evidence as some monster tough Nobember is not very accurate.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68653 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:27 pm to
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Why don't you give us the stats? And why just rushing? Catches count too, don't they?

stats against common opponents have been posted....and ignored....shocking

against common opponents

Henry:
A&M: 254 total yards on 33 touches, 2 TDs
Ole Miss: 166 total yards on 28 touches, 1 TD
Miss State: 204 total yards on 23 touches, 1 TD
Auburn: 271 yards on 46 touches, 1 TD
Florida: 189 yards on 44 touches, 1 TD
Arkansas: 95 yards on 27 touches, 1 TD

Total: 1179 yards on 201 touches (5.9 yards per touch), 7 TDs

Fournette:
A&M: 202 total yards on 36 touches, 1 TD
Ole Miss: 180 total yards on 29 touches, 0 TD
Miss State: 159 total yards on 28 touches, 3 TDs
Auburn: 237 yards on 20 touches, 3 TDs
Florida: 195 yards on 32 touches, 2 TDs
Arkansas: 127 yards on 22 touches, 1 TD

Total: 1100 yards on 167 touches (6.6 yards per touch), 10 TDs
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted by dplo
Member since Aug 2015
233 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:29 pm to
Do you guys really think voters sit down and compare stats that in depth? They want to see a guy will his team to win down the stretch with impressive performances. Henry did. LF, Cook did not. It's not that difficult.

All this complaining and stat comparing isn't going to magically turn LF's 31 yard performance into a 231 yard performance. LF disappeared for a little bit (and so did his team) and that was enough for them to forget all about him.
Posted by Guitarcheese
Lakesite, TN
Member since Jul 2015
1463 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:32 pm to
I agree. Voters for this stuff lack perspective.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68653 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:36 pm to
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Do you guys really think voters sit down and compare stats that in depth? They want to see a guy will his team to win down the stretch with impressive performances. Henry did. LF, Cook did not. It's not that difficult.

All this complaining and stat comparing isn't going to magically turn LF's 31 yard performance into a 231 yard performance. LF disappeared for a little bit (and so did his team) and that was enough for them to forget all about him.



i don't think anyone disputes any of that. but the people on this site do nitpick and look at stats like that and still make ignorant arguments
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32655 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:39 pm to
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LF7 has more material for a highlight reel in the auburn game than Henry does in his career.

But it's all about stats. Except not really, since Cook has damn near 8 ypc. The only stat Henry has signicantly more than anything in is carries... 42, 44, 38... Which I guess is impressive since our sorry arse offense has so many three and outs it's a miracle we even run 40 plays in a game.

And playing for the almighty crimson tide counts more than anything. I mean holy frick they let aj McCarron finish second one year.



I'm 1,000 miles away from this dude and I can feel his butthurt throuh my screen. I love being an Alabama fan. Eat a dick L5U.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24280 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:43 pm to
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Boom... 19 carries vs 46 carries....

Could also compare Florida games too... Took DH 42 carries to get what Leonard had on 30...

But no, just keep pretending LF played no one ;)
Well it took LF 16 carries to get 31 against Bama. Jovon Robinson got 51 on 14 carries. Looks like to me Jovon Robinson is better than LF
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
18001 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:50 pm to
They didn't deserve an award.



Better luck next season.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:52 pm to
When are you morons going to stop hitting yourselves? Will it end after the award ceremony, or are we going to be treated to these threads for the entire off-season?
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1649 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:52 pm to
Yeah I know those stats- I was referring to him asking me what the rush defense stats were!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68653 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:53 pm to
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When are you morons going to stop hitting yourselves? Will it end after the award ceremony, or are we going to be treated to these threads for the entire off-season?


well Alabama and Ole Miss fans keep replying to them
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1649 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:11 pm to
Ok so Florida & auburn improved, but Texas A&M, om, and Arky all declined? Got it.

Everybody knows why Henry won the awards and most agree he deserved to. But these notions that Henry is the GOAT and Fournette is some sort a scrub are laughable. And the stats back that up. The biggest difference between the two, is Henry didn't play Bama.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:17 pm to
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The biggest difference between the two, is Henry didn't play Bama.


No. The biggest difference is that all of Henry's numbers went up every month while he was carrying Bama to a Championship, and all of LF's numbers went down every month while LSU took a nosedive from #2 to unranked.
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