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Hindsight thread: Regarding transfers, did Sumlin get the last laugh?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:34 pm
A year ago we all laughed at Sumlin for losing control of two highly regarded QBs. Now Sumlin is 7-1, still alive for an SEC West title and a very realistic Sugar Bowl berth possibility.
Allen, who is draft eligible after this season, is now stuck sitting out this year in Houston, and he more than likely will never start a game for Tom Herman.
Murray will probably still put up great numbers when he gets his chance at Oklahoma, but I don't know that he will ever play with as talented a receiving corps as A&M has this year. Trevor Knight has put up some great rushing stats this year, I have no doubt Murray could have at least equaled his production.
I had a lot of laughs at Sumlin's expense over losing Murray and Allen so it's only fair that I commend him for rebounding with a transfer QB, and adapting his offense to better suit his personnel.
Allen, who is draft eligible after this season, is now stuck sitting out this year in Houston, and he more than likely will never start a game for Tom Herman.
Murray will probably still put up great numbers when he gets his chance at Oklahoma, but I don't know that he will ever play with as talented a receiving corps as A&M has this year. Trevor Knight has put up some great rushing stats this year, I have no doubt Murray could have at least equaled his production.
I had a lot of laughs at Sumlin's expense over losing Murray and Allen so it's only fair that I commend him for rebounding with a transfer QB, and adapting his offense to better suit his personnel.
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:35 pm to craigbiggio
I actually went further and compared Sumlin to Chizik.
So far, so wrong
So far, so wrong
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:36 pm to craigbiggio
Word is Allen might graduate early and be eligible to transfer. Aggy could use a veteran QB.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:37 pm to craigbiggio
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:37 pm to craigbiggio
Won't Kyler be a senior when he finally starts? Unless the bench Mayfield next season I don't think he'll be playing much for OU
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:39 pm to craigbiggio
He certainly didn't want to them to transfer and it caused a ripple effect on recruiting that we are still recovering from, but landing Knight and designing an offense around his strengths and weaknesses was a great save.
As a fan I'm interested to see how Murray and Allen fare. I think I read Allen may have his degree by the end of this year so he could grad transfer if Herman leaves but don't know that for sure/any rules around it.
The dumbest backlash was about Martell because it's obvious now we dropped him for Mond. Martell has basically said we stopped contacting him and Mond's coach at IMG worked under Mazzone.
As a fan I'm interested to see how Murray and Allen fare. I think I read Allen may have his degree by the end of this year so he could grad transfer if Herman leaves but don't know that for sure/any rules around it.
The dumbest backlash was about Martell because it's obvious now we dropped him for Mond. Martell has basically said we stopped contacting him and Mond's coach at IMG worked under Mazzone.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:39 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Tyler
Who?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:40 pm to craigbiggio
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I have no doubt Murray could have at least equaled his production.
I do have that doubt.
Murray is 5'5" and built like a girl.
Trevor Knight is a man who can shed arm tackles and take abuse.
Murray would have been broken by now if he had played for us this season. He's perfect for the Big XII a/k/a "College Football Lite" though.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:41 pm to Cooter Davenport
Yeah Murray would have gotten murdered in this offense. He will get hurt in the Big 12 too if he hasn't added weight, people made fun of Manziel and he probably had 30-35 pounds on Murray. Kid needs to focus on baseball
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:42 pm to Cooter Davenport
Good point. I really only remember Murray zipping around the Arizona St and Scar defenses
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:46 pm to Cooter Davenport
Not to mention that Knight is also as good of a team leader as you can ask for.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:50 pm to rockiee
I typed Kyler and it got auto corrected lol. This time when I did it it changed to Kumar
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:52 pm to craigbiggio
Other transfers:
Keith Ford (from Oklahoma) - 71 carries, 352 yards, 3 TD, 3 catches for 75 yards
Priest Willis (from UCLA) - 27 tackles, 0.5 TFL, 1 INT, 7 PBU
Kalvin Cline (from VT) - 1 catch, 17 yards, 1 TD
Keith Ford (from Oklahoma) - 71 carries, 352 yards, 3 TD, 3 catches for 75 yards
Priest Willis (from UCLA) - 27 tackles, 0.5 TFL, 1 INT, 7 PBU
Kalvin Cline (from VT) - 1 catch, 17 yards, 1 TD
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:53 pm to craigbiggio
Losing Allen sucked. Kyler was whatever. I've been pretty adamant since day one that I don't think he's a QB but that's whatever. The move sumlin made this offseason may have saved his job but we'll see.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:54 pm to John Maplethorpe
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Aggy could use a veteran QB.
I'm not worried about QB next year.
Between Nick Starkel (redshirting this year), Jake Hubenak (JR this year), and Kellen Mond (early entrant), I'm confident Mazzone will find the right fit.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:05 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
early returns on allen are that he hasnt been all that impressive. he will go wherever herman goes though. sumlin definitely won the lotto when he got TK to come to A&M.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:05 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Two freshmen and a former walk-on? Not a perfect situation.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:54 pm to craigbiggio
Up fricking vote
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