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Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:29 pm to Diamondawg
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:29 pm to Diamondawg
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I am surprised that Dunlap got caught up in this.
Letting a kid hunt on his land? I mean, do you really think he thought he was doing something wrong? I am not sure he will be disassociated. Just the ones with level 1's attached.
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:30 pm to Vecchio Cane
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Vecchio Cane
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No Canes are listed I see. I was confident all along. Never worried
Are you the owner of Raising Cane's?
(I know the owner's last name isn't Cane, but pun intended)
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:35 pm to GnashRebel
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Seems expensive and of dubious merit to his case.
expensive? for who? Not sure why you think it's dubious either.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:37 pm to Whereisomaha
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They filed a suit to have their names delayed. It has been said by one of our writers that he is just needing his name delayed from being revealed until late September. He is rumored to be an attorney, so perhaps he is selling his practice, in the process of changing jobs, or in the middle of a case, but his reasoning is business based. One is the attorney and the other works for the attorney.
feel like i read their hearing is in mid August. not much of a delay
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:38 pm to Whereisomaha
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Letting a kid hunt on his land? I mean, do you really think he thought he was doing something wrong?
by having a potential recruit alone at a hunting camp with a booster? Yeah, nothing bad could possibly come from that.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:39 pm to Whereisomaha
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I mean, do you really think he thought he was doing something wrong?
Maybe not; but Ignorantia juris non excusat.
That's where a university's compliance and institutional control come in.
After we (TAMU) got popped in the early 90s for having a rogue booster pay one of our athletes for a summer job he didn't do, our athletic dept. lost its mind, pushing compliance issues.
Now we don't receive a piece of mail or drink from a plastic cup that doesn't have some kind of NCAA compliance/Did you know? factoid printed on it.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:42 pm to lsufball19
quote:Its not a public hearing
feel like i read their hearing is in mid August. not much of a delay
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:45 pm to lsufball19
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by having a potential recruit alone at a hunting camp with a booster? Yeah, nothing bad could possibly come from that.
That wasn't the case. Dunlap has land close to Oxford that he lets players hunt on, one of those was Ben Still, OM's center, who was Golson's player host. Ben asked if Golson wanted to hunt while he was in town, so that's where they went. If what you mentioned was the case it wouldn't be a charge of letting someone on your land, but a charge of improper contact with a recruit. And given this information is known from snitching, the ncaa has all the info.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:45 pm to Whereisomaha
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Its not a public hearing
how is that relevant? If a ruling is made in mid-August, they're not just going to wait until late September to sign the Order.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:47 pm to lsufball19
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how is that relevant? If a ruling is made in mid-August, they're not just going to wait until late September to sign the Order.
Ok, good, I was curious too what that had to do with the price of recruits in Oxford.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:51 pm to Herm Edwards
This
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:55 pm to Whereisomaha
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Dunlap has land close to Oxford that he lets players hunt on
That right there is a violation.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:01 pm to EKG
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Dunlap has land close to Oxford that he lets players hunt on
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That right there is a violation
It is rules like this that makes the NCAA look stupid. I doubt if there are many kids that give a frick about hunting.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:04 pm to Whereisomaha
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If what you mentioned was the case it wouldn't be a charge of letting someone on your land, but a charge of improper contact with a recruit. And given this information is known from snitching, the ncaa has all the info.
so Ole Miss answered by admitting to additional violations? All the NCAA did was say they let a recruit on a boosters hunting land once during his recruitment and 2-3 times more after enrolled. So Ole Miss admitted this was a regularly occurring event with multiple players? Or are you just making all of this up?
I'm trying tp figure out when y'all will stop buying what your message boards are selling
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:06 pm to JCdawg
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All but 12 and 14 are not even worth reading, but the other two are big time.
Not true.
The hotel operator giving room to recruits and player's families (including 12 nights to someone's mom) is not small stuff in the grand scheme of things. it matters.
the car loans are big in NCAA eyes (ask OSU).
also, a lot of those "small" allegations include members of football staff coordinating with boosters, which doesn't exactly scream "we monitored things and had institutional control".
Reading it makes me more confident Ole Miss gets bent over a barrel and shown the 50 states.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:07 pm to Central Pork
I don't disagree with you; but any "benefit" on which a monetary value can be placed is considered payment.
I was in line at a Starbucks in College Station once; they messed up my order, leaving me with an extra cuppa Joe.
I tried to give it to the kid in line behind me--who happened to be on the football team.
He thanked me and informed me they (athletes) aren't allowed to accept anything free--including a car ride across campus.
I don't make the stupid rules, I just snicker at 'em.
I was in line at a Starbucks in College Station once; they messed up my order, leaving me with an extra cuppa Joe.
I tried to give it to the kid in line behind me--who happened to be on the football team.
He thanked me and informed me they (athletes) aren't allowed to accept anything free--including a car ride across campus.
I don't make the stupid rules, I just snicker at 'em.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:10 pm to fillmoregandt
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So what now? Are we supposed to tar and feather these folks now or something?
Yes. Next question.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:10 pm to Central Pork
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It is rules like this that makes the NCAA look stupid. I doubt if there are many kids that give a frick about hunting.
I hunt on land that belongs to someone else. It really isn't a big deal as long as I pay my yearly fee. Lol
I can bring family too. Can also bring non related guests, as long as I pay the fee of $150 each per day.
The NCAA assigns a value to everything
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:14 pm to EKG
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I don't make the stupid rules, I just snicker at 'em.
Exactly. It would be nice if there could be some common sense things that were allowed- your cup of coffee, even buying them a burger when you're sitting at a restaurant with them, etc. but it's impossible to regulate common sense with so many lacking it that there has to be ticky tack rules.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:18 pm to Whereisomaha
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Letting a kid hunt on his land? I mean, do you really think he thought he was doing something wrong? I am not sure he will be disassociated. Just the ones with level 1's attached.
I understand what you are saying here but it depends on how valuable of hunting land it is I guess. If it's some random cow pasture in Rankin county, big deal. If it's land at or near Tara Hunting Camp, big difference because membership at that camp is big bucks (pun intended).
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