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re: Herbstreit: People are failing to grasp this is a new era

Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:08 am to
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:08 am to
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LSU is #2 in the playoff poll, ahead of defending champ Ohio State and all they want to talk about is where Alabama is ranked. It is pathetic.



Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12344 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:08 am to
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I personally had Alabama around 8 and UF ahead of them
Me too, maybe around 6th or 7th even.

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But not losing doesn't mean you're better than a 1 loss team. So being ranked ahead of them might not be a big deal. This is about finding the best teams.
Agree. Doesn't justify Bama at 4 though. Pretty sure we agree on that, except..........

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I understand why they're there.
Explain
Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6146 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:09 am to
It's way too subjective and manipulated week to week to stimulate TV ratings. It won't last long, imo.

A computer based system (like the BCS) and a 4 (or 6) game playoff is much better (and all most people ever wanted).
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:09 am to
heh, k.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86671 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:13 am to
Well, I think they absolutely refuse to put TCU and Baylor up top because of their schedule. So they're out, as are Memphis and any of the other undefeateds with ridiculous schedules. They probably think Alabama would spank Iowa. Who does that leave? ND and UF? I mean, 1 of the 3 has to be ranked highest.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12344 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:15 am to
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They probably think Alabama would spank Iowa
I have a problem with this, but OK

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Who does that leave?
UF...at the very least

And make no mistake...I cannot stand UF. But damn, it is what it is.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29235 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:15 am to
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Alabama is 5 spots ahead of Florida, despite a similar SOS and Florida having a better loss and a better record against common opponents.



That's the most bizarre part. Florida has one loss to the #2 team on the road, in possibly the toughest environment in CFB. Alabama has a loss to a 2-loss Ole Miss at home, and it wasn't as close as the score, regardless of what Bama fans may say.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86671 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:17 am to
The biggest problem I have with it is UF behind Alabama. I just think that's wrong.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:17 am to
I find it most interesting what they're doing to Baylor

this is a team whose administration proudly schedules nobody out of conference and says they will continue to do so.. and as a result the committee is pretty much writing off their playoff chances. I'm not sure their qb being hurt made a whole lot of difference with where they're ranked.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86671 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:17 am to
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and it wasn't as close as the score
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:18 am to
why would uf be above bama with a worse strength of record and worse strength of schedule? not to mention that they lost the qb who won their best win for them.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
34366 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:20 am to
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One of the criteria is conference championships, and that obviously can't be factored in until the very end.
lol so that means SOS really isn't a bigger factor than it was in the BCS.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:22 am to
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Well, I think they absolutely refuse to put TCU and Baylor up top because of their schedule.

TCU should be ahead of Baylor. It's really silly.

Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25421 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:25 am to
As this is something I don't have to worry about I have a clear opinion.

Bama is better than Florida
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29235 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:25 am to
Okay, maybe the score was about right. But the onside kick, albeit executed to perfection, can be considered a bit of a fluke. We can have that cancel out the kickoff fumble. Ole Miss had success moving the ball for much of the night and made them pay for their mistakes. The picks were not flukes.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86671 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:26 am to
I haven't looked at the difference between the two. What are the main reasons you say that?

With the Pac12 killing each other, I've pretty much convinced myself that an undefeated TCU/Baylor will get in...so I haven't paid any attention to them.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12344 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:27 am to
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not to mention that they lost the qb who won their best win for them.
Here's a problem I have with this statement, and it goes for the Baylor QB as well.

You shouldn't punish a team for what it MIGHT suffer because of the loss of a player. It's the same as these morons in the preseason saying such and such team..."their schedule is just too hard, so we have them at #15" or whatever. Well what if they beat that hard schedule? They've been penalized for something that hasn't happened yet. Might as well say LSU shouldn't be #2 because they have a tough November ahead.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12344 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:29 am to
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As this is something I don't have to worry about I have a clear opinion.

Bama is better than Florida
Thank you Mr. Long.
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:29 am to
the thing is you keep saying Florida has a better resume but all objective evidence says the opposite.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
34366 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:29 am to
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A computer based system (like the BCS) and a 4 (or 6) game playoff is much better (and all most people ever wanted).
The BCS rankings weren't broken. If a four team playoff had to be created then that's fine but there was no reason not to use the BCS rankings to determine the four teams other than wasting an opportunity to manipulate the rankings to make more money.
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