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re: Head to head should always mean more than "better resume"
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:36 pm to TripleBarrelBluff1
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:36 pm to TripleBarrelBluff1
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TripleBarrelBluff1
STFU, Cuyler.
Go practice your grooming on the PlayStation
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:38 pm to WhiskeyDick
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I’m not arguing that at all, the whole point of my comment was everyone chirping that Ole Miss only had one quality win vs Georgia and acted like the Cocks game didn’t happen. It was a quality beat down which should be factored. Our two losses were vs SEC opponents by a combined 6 points, one in an OT night game at Death Valley. Inexcusable and embarrassing, but it’s not like we got blown out like Georgia did in their loss.
They have some sort of delusion of entitlement. You are wasting time.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:41 pm to Blackadder
Cool in theory. Doesn't work when the multiple teams in the tiebreakers don't all have the same opponents. Once you can't establish that than the resume and the SOS because the main determining factor.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:50 pm to WhiskeyDick
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I’m not arguing that at all, the whole point of my comment was everyone chirping that Ole Miss only had one quality win vs Georgia and acted like the Cocks game didn’t happen. It was a quality beat down which should be factored. Our two losses were vs SEC opponents by a combined 6 points, one in an OT night game at Death Valley. Inexcusable and embarrassing, but it’s not like we got blown out like Georgia did in their loss.
You lost at home to Kentucky. That's likely going to be their only SEC win this season. You keep leaving that out of your explanation, but it's the biggest pimple any SEC contending team has this year. UK's other wins this year are all at home... to Murray State, Southern Miss and Ohio.
Nobody else has a conference loss that bad in the SEC. It's literally the absolute worst team that any other SEC team has lost to. Auburn is bad... but they beat UK. OU is bad... but they beat Auburn.
Losing to UK, at home no less, is literally the worst thing any SEC team has done this year with the only possible exception being Vandy's loss to Georgia State. At least Vandy lost on the road.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:53 pm to Kcstills17
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Cool in theory. Doesn't work when the multiple teams in the tiebreakers don't all have the same opponents. Once you can't establish that than the resume and the SOS because the main determining factor.
He will certainly overlook this whole post
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:56 pm to Blackadder
shut the frick up Whiskey
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:56 pm to DawginSC
You mean the horrific Kentucky team that Georgia beat by one point this year (13-12)? That team?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:59 pm to WhiskeyDick
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You mean the horrific Kentucky team that Georgia beat by one point this year (13-12)? That team?
Yea, in other words:
a uga WIN on the road vs a OLE miss loss at home.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:02 pm to WhiskeyDick
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You mean the horrific Kentucky team that Georgia beat by one point this year (13-12)? That team?
Yes, the horrific UK team that UGA beat by 1 on the road.
Key word... beat.
I'm not going to make excuses. UGA's been really bad on the road this year. First half of the Bama game, all of the Ole Miss game, the UK game, heck even the Texas game wasn't a good performance for UGA even though we won (Beck and 3 turnovers and UGA had less than 300 yards of offense).
But of the teams who are at the bottom of the playoff ranking from the SEC, Ole Miss is the only one who's dropped a home game. And they lost it to Kentucky who is fighting with MSU for being the worst team in the conference... or would be if they hadn't lost to Ole Miss.
Ole Miss has the worst loss to a SEC team in the entire conference this season. That's not really an opinion. That's just facts.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:02 pm to Blackadder
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Resume should not be the first tiebreaker.
It isn't. The problem is as someone else said when you have a 3 or more way tie.
Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia all have 2 SEC losses (as do others, but we're keeping it simple)
Tennessee beat Alabama
Alabama beat Georgia
Georgia beat Tennessee
Using head to head, tell me who gets the slot.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:03 pm to djsdawg
I’m not even sure why you’re bringing that up constantly, I haven’t once said Ole Miss should be above Georgia and stated 5x I was just commenting that people should mention our win vs USC. You should probably take a break, constantly hitting refresh on this thread is going to overload your trailer park’s ISP.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:07 pm to Blackadder
But if there’s no H2H, what do you do?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:17 pm to JustGetItRight
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The problem is as someone else said when you have a 3 or more way tie. Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia all have 2 SEC losses (as do others, but we're keeping it simple) Tennessee beat Alabama Alabama beat Georgia Georgia beat Tennessee Using head to head, tell me who gets the slot.
No doubt he will overlook this post
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:24 pm to WhiskeyDick
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I’m not even sure why you’re bringing that up constantly,
We bring up the fact Ole Miss lost to UK because Ole Miss fans will never acknowledge it when talking about playoff scenarios.
The Ole Miss loss to UK is the biggest negative impact to Ole Miss making the playoffs. You can't pretend it didn't happen when discussing playoff scenarios.
Yes, you beat UGA at home. But you lost to UK at home.
Yes, you beat SC on the road. But you lost to UK at home.
Yes, you are 2-0 vs ranked teams. But you lost to two unranked teams... including UK at home.
That UK loss is an anchor that impacts how you fit in with a ranking against all the teams with similar records. It's a big lead weight.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:36 pm to DawginSC
“We bring up the fact” ??
I can just imagine you and the other “dawgs” in this thread having a meeting of the minds in a Waffle House to come up with coordinated talking points about why you should be ranked ahead of the team that beat your brains in a week ago.
I can just imagine you and the other “dawgs” in this thread having a meeting of the minds in a Waffle House to come up with coordinated talking points about why you should be ranked ahead of the team that beat your brains in a week ago.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:04 pm to Blackadder
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Of course overall record matters, you idiot. But when the overall records match you go by the head to head.
It has already been explained to you several times...
But here is the simplest way to put it.
This is not the first time that a loss at a later point in the season has dropped a team (Tennessee) behind another team (Alabama) that they had beaten earlier...
And it won't be the last.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:06 pm to Blackadder
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Head to head should always mean more than "better resume"
Alabama beat UGA
Tennessee beat Alabama
UGA beat Tennessee
Now do H2H only and rank these three teams in order
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:16 pm to WhiskeyDick
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come up with coordinated talking points about why you should be ranked ahead of the team that beat your brains in a week ago.
Which point are you trying to diminish?
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:53 am to lsufball19
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Alabama beat UGA Tennessee beat Alabama UGA beat Tennessee Now do H2H only and rank these three teams in order
Looks like he ran from this challenge AGAIN
Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:22 pm to Blackadder
Well this particular year is a little different if bama uga and Tenn all finish 10-2 head to head literally means nothing bc bama beat uga. Uga beat ten. Ten beat bama. It’s impossible now but if atm just had the loss to nd. I’d give atm the nod over the Irish. Losing a close game to nd at home shouldn’t weigh more than losing to niu at home. In most cases I agree but it’s not an always situation.
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