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re: Head to head should always mean more than "better resume"
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:26 pm to redandblackattack
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:26 pm to redandblackattack
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You are white knighting for a team you’re not a fan of based on an extremely illogical argument. I can’t possibly think of a reason why I would think you’re a rebel fan. Lol.
I'm not white knighting for any team. I'm just saying the team with the best records, and the head-to-head wins should go ahead of our "resume is pretty".
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:31 pm to Blackadder
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when the overall records match you go by the head to head.
Why, when all schedules are not created equal? And all wins and losses aren't equal?
Look at our wins compared to ole miss. Ours are better.
Look at our losses compared to ole miss. Ours are better.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:31 pm to Blackadder
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I'm not white knighting for any team. I'm just saying the team with the best records, and the head-to-head wins should go ahead of our "resume is prett
A good vol fan would have made this thread about bama and Tennessee, but you failed.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:34 pm to djsdawg
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A good vol fan would have made this thread about bama and Tennessee, but you failed.
That doesn't even make sense, you, moron.
I'm talking about all teams. Not just the SEC. The only reason your pussy is bleeding all over this forum, is because under this planned Georgia would get knocked back behind Ole Miss.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:35 pm to Blackadder
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That doesn't even make sense, you, moron.
Vols beat bama head to head.
Bama is ranked ahead of the vols.
What exactly doesnt make sense?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:38 pm to djsdawg
SEC teams are going to be ranked this way this Tuesday:
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
Ole Miss
Tennessee
A&M
South Carolina
I could see Georgia and Bama flipped…maybe
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
Ole Miss
Tennessee
A&M
South Carolina
I could see Georgia and Bama flipped…maybe
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:38 pm to djsdawg
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Vols beat bama head to head.
Bama is ranked ahead of the vols.
What exactly doesnt make sense?
What part of this comment are you too fricking stupid to understand?
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I'm talking about all teams. Not just the SEC
You are too stupid to understand any of it.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:44 pm to Blackadder
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What part of this comment are you too fricking stupid to understand?
Bama and UT are included in your point. Where is uga supposed to be as compared to bama and UT?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:45 pm to Blackadder
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I have seen some fans claiming that, they have a better resume, and should go in ahead of another two loss team to who they lost head to head.
When teams have the same record, head to head should always be the first tiebreaker.
It's not a one to one comparison.
If you were comparing Tennessee to Alabama, Tennessee has the head to head.
But UGA beat UT who beat Bama who beat UGA. Head to head doesn't work.
The other part that doesn't work is when you consider teams who don't have the same record.
Ole Miss beat UGA handily at home. At a glance, that makes you think "Ole Miss should be ranked ahead of UGA". But Ole Miss lost to Kentucky at HOME. It's UK's only conference win this year. And UGA beat UK on the road.
So how can you justify that Ole Miss belongs ahead of UGA because of head to head when they lost to a much worse team that UGA beat? Does that not count because UK sucks? Shouldn't that loss count more BECAUSE UK sucks?
UGA's argument is simple. they've played 5 ranked teams and gone 3-2 against them. They haven't lost to an unranked team.
Tennessee, Ole Miss, Bama... they've all got 1-2 losses to unranked teams. Losing to Vandy or Arkansas or LSU or Kentucky is worse than losing to Ole Miss, UGA, Tennessee or Texas. It should be treated as being worse, not excused.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:45 pm to Blackadder
In every one of these threads they always omit that Ole Miss drummed South Carolina 27-3 at their house. That’s a big road ranked win and they’ll probably end up a top 15 team after beating Clemson, and were a score or so away from being a playoff team this year.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:47 pm to Blackadder
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Blackadder
I see this stupid thought has gone well for you. Keep up the good work.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:53 pm to WhiskeyDick
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In every one of these threads they always omit that Ole Miss drummed South Carolina 27-3 at their house. That’s a big road ranked win and they’ll probably end up a top 15 team after beating Clemson, and were a score or so away from being a playoff team this year.
If SC wins against Clemson on the road to end the season it will be a ranked win.
If SC loses on the road to clemson, it will be a road win against an unranked 8-4 team who only has one ranked win of their own on the season (A&M).
Kentucky also has one win over a ranked team this year and some close losses.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:54 pm to WhiskeyDick
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In every one of these threads they always omit that Ole Miss drummed South Carolina 27-3 at their house. That’s a big road ranked win and they’ll probably end up a top 15 team after beating Clemson, and were a score or so away from being a playoff team this year.
we’ve been discussing factual info of games played to date but I could just as easily say that SCAR will probably end up a 4 loss team and unranked after probably losing to Clemson. So what then?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:59 pm to theRealJesseD
Ok, then let’s talk facts. It’s currently a ranked win as they were 21st last week and just beat another ranked team Saturday and will most likely be ~19th come Tuesday.
So we beat a ranked team on the road by 3+ scores and held them to a field goal. The same team that throttled A&M and took Bama to the wire in Tuscaloosa.
So we beat a ranked team on the road by 3+ scores and held them to a field goal. The same team that throttled A&M and took Bama to the wire in Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:13 pm to WhiskeyDick
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So we beat a ranked team on the road by 3+ scores and held them to a field goal. The same team that throttled A&M and took Bama to the wire in Tuscaloosa.
It was a good win. You have 2 of them. Very easy schedule.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:15 pm to Blackadder
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I have seen some fans claiming that, they have a better resume, and should go in ahead of another two loss team to who they lost head to head.
When teams have the same record, head to head should always be the first tiebreaker.
Apparently they don't teach the transitive property in Tennessee anymore.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:16 pm to WhiskeyDick
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So we beat a ranked team on the road by 3+ scores and held them to a field goal. The same team that throttled A&M and took Bama to the wire in Tuscaloosa.
Yes, that should be taken into account.
As should Ole Miss's home loss to a Kentucky team who only has one SEC win (that game vs Ole Miss).
And a road loss to another unranked team in LSU.
While you are correct that others shouldn't ignore the SC game and the UGA game for Ole Miss, they also shouldn't ignore the Ole Miss losses either. All of those results make up what Ole Miss is this year.
And right now they do have 2 ranked wins. But they're also the only SEC 2-loss team with 2 unranked losses, one at home. Both parts count toward where you get ranked.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:29 pm to DawginSC
I’m not arguing that at all, the whole point of my comment was everyone chirping that Ole Miss only had one quality win vs Georgia and acted like the Cocks game didn’t happen. It was a quality beat down which should be factored. Our two losses were vs SEC opponents by a combined 6 points, one in an OT night game at Death Valley. Inexcusable and embarrassing, but it’s not like we got blown out like Georgia did in their loss.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:30 pm to Blackadder
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When teams have the same record, head to head should always be the first tiebreaker.
In some cases it's not possible to apply H2H like Alabama Georgia Tennessee.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:32 pm to Blackadder
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That's why I said, head-to-head should be the first time breaker. Should you still have a tie, then you go to the resume.
Resume should not be the first tiebreaker.
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Blackadder
I think you're missing your own point.
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