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Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:05 pm to 4Ghost
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They can enjoy their moment. It is fleeting.
Fleeting = one of the most dominant programs of the last 10 years
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:07 pm to Chuck Dingo
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Fleeting = one of the most dominant programs of the last 10 years
Most wins since 2010 according to the graphic they showed today during the game.
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:22 pm to Chuck Dingo
Congrats, stop by 10 years from now and see if it still rings true.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:34 pm to DoreonthePlains
I commend the spin, I really do. But if you don’t see the unfair advantage I can’t help you here. Like I said, I don’t blame Vandy. They found their niche sport and endowment loop hole.
Having the ability to utilize an endowment that takes away 75% of a 73k annual cost of attendance, and NOT count towards being a player on athletic aid is a wild advantage to begin with. It’s totally fair that a 73k a year private school like Vanderbilt can actually cost less to a recruit, especially out of state recruits compared to Tennessee, as long as they don’t dip into the 11.7 pool with these guys.
On top of that, do you realize there are other scholarships through the University outside of the main “opportunity fund” for athletes they use to cover the remaining 15/20k as you described for these families right? They find ways to make that cost nothing and are damn good at it. These other sources of scholarships were conveniently left out in your earlier article.
I know nothing about you, maybe you were a trust fund Nashville kid that played baseball and who had parents could afford the “elite” travel programs, attend a school like MBA and then parlay that to having your parents pay an out of state tuition for a 4 year cocktail party at an out of state school like Auburn (a tradition of rich private school Nashville kids like none other), but most families in the south can barely afford to fund the baseball dreams of their son.
To equate the Vandy financial aid machine to the damn HOPE scholarship and 11.7 the state schools have as a “level playing field” is crazy.
Having the ability to utilize an endowment that takes away 75% of a 73k annual cost of attendance, and NOT count towards being a player on athletic aid is a wild advantage to begin with. It’s totally fair that a 73k a year private school like Vanderbilt can actually cost less to a recruit, especially out of state recruits compared to Tennessee, as long as they don’t dip into the 11.7 pool with these guys.
On top of that, do you realize there are other scholarships through the University outside of the main “opportunity fund” for athletes they use to cover the remaining 15/20k as you described for these families right? They find ways to make that cost nothing and are damn good at it. These other sources of scholarships were conveniently left out in your earlier article.
I know nothing about you, maybe you were a trust fund Nashville kid that played baseball and who had parents could afford the “elite” travel programs, attend a school like MBA and then parlay that to having your parents pay an out of state tuition for a 4 year cocktail party at an out of state school like Auburn (a tradition of rich private school Nashville kids like none other), but most families in the south can barely afford to fund the baseball dreams of their son.
To equate the Vandy financial aid machine to the damn HOPE scholarship and 11.7 the state schools have as a “level playing field” is crazy.
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:48 pm to psk_Vol
You literally know nothing about which speak. You’re just a jealous fan of the Vols.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:57 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Meh. State acting like they are a blue blood program without having a national championship is more annoying
Lol this is so classic chip on shoulder HJJ
Posted on 6/16/19 at 7:23 pm to psk_Vol
You're literally complaining that because state schools are not as good academically, it is unfair for Vanderbilt to have attempted to offset the astronomical cost of a private school education to any student who earns admission to the school. The fact that baseball players benefit, too, is somehow an unfair advantage? frick that. State schools are already super cheap to attend, so why should Vandy's baseball program be handicapped because it is part of an elite academic institution with a higher tuition bill because you are receiving an elite education for that tuition bill?
The only spin is you whining that recruits can choose to go to Vandy at the same cost as a state school. You can't accept that student-athletes would rather go to this lame nerd school instead of UT because our baseball program and academics blow it out of the water, so if they're paying the same price due to the 11.7 scholarship limit, they choose to be at the place most beneficial to their future.
The only spin is you whining that recruits can choose to go to Vandy at the same cost as a state school. You can't accept that student-athletes would rather go to this lame nerd school instead of UT because our baseball program and academics blow it out of the water, so if they're paying the same price due to the 11.7 scholarship limit, they choose to be at the place most beneficial to their future.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 7:26 pm to NoNotMe
What was the real motivation for starting this thread? It is disguised as a problem with the whistler and our recruiting. But is that the real reason? And so kind of the Orangenecks to weigh in. A University that chokes in everything. Even their Number 1 ranked basketball program failed. For years they glorified themselves by whipping up on Vandy, Ky and Ole Miss in football. But when it comes to the real test ,Alabama and Florida give them a whooping.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 7:27 pm to DoreonthePlains
He won’t provide a substantive response to your actual answer. Just empty regurgitations of tired arguments that you’ve already disproved.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:03 pm to DoreonthePlains
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Basically, Vandy is just able to offset the difference in cost of attendance at a private school versus the state schools.
They are using the model of the IVY's so by the logic stated, Columbia and Harvard should have kick arse baseball teams.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:06 pm to psk_Vol
LOL at the pathetic Vawl fan crying about things being unfair. You have a huge fan base and every advantage in the world and still suck at everything you do.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:17 pm to DoreonthePlains
Hold up now, who is this “our” you speak of?
Assuming you went to Auburn, which appears to be the case, let’s not act like you are in any way connected to Vanderbilt.
Being from Nashville, I always find it sadly amusing when encountering sidewalk Vandy fans touting the superiority of Vanderbilt academics as a jab to Tennessee alums like myself. Especially considering the Tennessee network is more powerful within the business community of the state. If I have a heart attack, I want to be operated on by Vandy doctors. Outside of that a Vanderbilt education is just another liberal arts BS education with inflated GPAs. I’ve still yet to find these Vandy alum bosses in the corporate world we all are supposed to be working for.
Vanderbilt has had an unfair advantage in baseball ever since the University committed to the program/Corbin 10 or 15 years ago. You can spin it, label it, or rationalize it however you like, but the truth is you guys have more “scholarships” to divvy out and stretch than the other SEC public schools. Add in a sweet per diem, and half your roster is effectively getting paid. I’m glad “y’all” discovered the one major sport you can compete at a national level with.
Assuming you went to Auburn, which appears to be the case, let’s not act like you are in any way connected to Vanderbilt.
Being from Nashville, I always find it sadly amusing when encountering sidewalk Vandy fans touting the superiority of Vanderbilt academics as a jab to Tennessee alums like myself. Especially considering the Tennessee network is more powerful within the business community of the state. If I have a heart attack, I want to be operated on by Vandy doctors. Outside of that a Vanderbilt education is just another liberal arts BS education with inflated GPAs. I’ve still yet to find these Vandy alum bosses in the corporate world we all are supposed to be working for.
Vanderbilt has had an unfair advantage in baseball ever since the University committed to the program/Corbin 10 or 15 years ago. You can spin it, label it, or rationalize it however you like, but the truth is you guys have more “scholarships” to divvy out and stretch than the other SEC public schools. Add in a sweet per diem, and half your roster is effectively getting paid. I’m glad “y’all” discovered the one major sport you can compete at a national level with.
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:25 pm to Athanatos
Dude, he literally proved my point. Y’all have more “scholarship” money and flexibility to give out, it is ok to acknowledge that. Corbin’s still a hell of a coach and y’all have a great baseball program, even though you need the private school endowment loop hole to thrive.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:33 pm to psk_Vol
Just stop. It is getting sad.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:35 pm to psk_Vol
So Tennessee spends millions upon millions on football instead of academics. Like I’ve said before it’s not unfair if any school could do it if they wanted to. Come off of some of that football money, hell it’s not doing you any good anyway
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:39 pm to Chuck Dingo
True, watching the “smart ones” of the SEC deny the reality of their baseball recruiting situation is very sad.
Then again, most of you Vandy fans could never have been accepted into a school like Vanderbilt.
Then again, most of you Vandy fans could never have been accepted into a school like Vanderbilt.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:43 pm to VUfan
Yea, our athletic department is definitely funded by our endowment and not alumni boosters/donations from season ticket holders. Those are totally the same thing.
Good to see you never stepped foot inside a Vanderbilt classroom.
Good to see you never stepped foot inside a Vanderbilt classroom.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:47 pm to psk_Vol
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Hold up now, who is this “our” you speak of?
Assuming you went to Auburn, which appears to be the case, let’s not act like you are in any way connected to Vanderbilt.
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“DoreonthePlains”
I’m sure it’s very confusing for you.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:58 pm to Athanatos
He is right that I did go to Auburn. Also, weird argument about the Vandy academic thing. I never said that I am smarter due to being a fan of a prestigious academic institution. Although, my reading comprehension and logical understanding of a presented situation is proving my intelligence and his lack thereof for me.
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