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re: Has Saban ever been able to win without "out-talenting" an opponent?

Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26950 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:20 pm to
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He reached out to LSU the next day to come back to college ball.



And the LSU administration told Saban to go pound sand...they were sticking with Miles.



Even your fellow LSU fans think you're an idiot.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26950 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Won the SEC championship and was one of only 4 teams out of 128 to make the playoffs, with their 3rd String qb.



Fify, dumbass.

Out talented indeed!

You have to be an alter. No one is this fricking stupid...not even you.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 12:23 pm
Posted by 5 STAR U GA
The Classic City
Member since Nov 2021
135 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:23 pm to
Same team loss to Virginia Tech by 2 TDs.

Could Saban beat the 2014 Virginia Tech team?????
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26950 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:24 pm to
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Could Saban beat the 2014 Virginia Tech team?????



Well, he's beaten every VT team he played.

He even beat one with Greg fricking McElroy starting his first game.

Again...even you're not this stupid.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 12:24 pm
Posted by panhandlebama
Member since Oct 2021
1306 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

2008 Georgia

Burn
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6282 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Bryce Young is overratted.

Stetson is not flashy but leads the SEC in several key statistical categories.

You can look it up.



I don't need to look it up I've seen him play. When UGA can't control the Los scrimmage with their O-line he is dreadful and I can see why he was a Walk on. Lol.


Posted by 5 STAR U GA
The Classic City
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:29 pm to
and yet he is leading the SEC in many statistical categories relevant to qbs.

This is why the "eye test" is unreliable and why they went to BCS computers, which had caused less controversey than the "eye test" that the Playoff committee uses.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12372 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:30 pm to
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This is why the "eye test" is unreliable and why they went to BCS computers, which had caused less controversey than the "eye test" that the Playoff committee uses.


The BCS computers put Bama into the 2011 title game with LSU.

Both of those teams had equal talent. How did that championship game turn out?
Posted by 5 STAR U GA
The Classic City
Member since Nov 2021
135 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:31 pm to
Les Miles was a bad coach. That's why LSU fired him to replace him with that idiot Ed O.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15786 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:31 pm to
Saban actually utilizes that talent in a coherent system with a constantly updating (not so much this year) scheme. Bama is more than just a collection of talent.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12372 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Has Saban ever been able to win without "out-talenting" an opponent?


quote:

Les Miles was a bad coach.


So your original point of Saban only winning with more talent is such horseshite you had to pivot to something else. Gotcha.
Posted by 5 STAR U GA
The Classic City
Member since Nov 2021
135 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:42 pm to
odd deflection.

not sure what point you're even trying to make
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
29952 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:42 pm to
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It's why he flopped in the NFL.


Have you ever looked at the record of the Dolphins' before and after Saban was there?

This narrative of him "flopping" in the NFL is laughable.
Posted by 5 STAR U GA
The Classic City
Member since Nov 2021
135 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:45 pm to
How long did he stay at the Dolphins?

Not long at all and ran back to College Football because he couldn't clearly out talent teams in the League and actually had to coach and got scared.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12372 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:46 pm to
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not sure what point you're even trying to make


You've been given several examples of your original argument making no sense.

The most shining example is LSU vs Bama for a national title where Saban won 21-0, and you blame it on Les Miles instead of some sort of talent gap.

Pretty obvious point. Your argument is garbage.
Posted by 5 STAR U GA
The Classic City
Member since Nov 2021
135 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:47 pm to
Yet Saban also lost to LSU that year too.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12372 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Yet Saban also lost to LSU that year too.


If your original argument rings true, then he would've lost both games seeing as the talent level was equal. Why didn't he?
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:48 pm to
Has there ever been a coach who got shitty talent and won multiple NC's in a short span?

Saban is the opposite of a gimmick you dumbass.

Gus is the definition of gimmick.
Posted by 5 STAR U GA
The Classic City
Member since Nov 2021
135 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:49 pm to
Equilibirum
Posted by 5 STAR U GA
The Classic City
Member since Nov 2021
135 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:51 pm to
My agrument isn't that he doesn't get talent, but whether or not he could win without it like Bill snyder or Pat Fitzgerald.

Any bozo can win with talent. True coaches can do it in the league. Saban couldnt and got exposed fast.
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