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re: Has Derrick Henry's NFL career altered your opinion of his collegiate performance?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:05 pm to 3down10
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:05 pm to 3down10
Herschal Walker and Bo Jackson were legends in their own time.
Henry wasn't and isn't.
Whether he's a better rb can be debated and you can use stats and all that.
However, Henry will never be remembered like Bo and Herschal because they were legends while in college and legends in the NFL while playing.
Henry has never been thought of like that at all by the masses.
Bo became an entire ad campaign. Walker created the greatest/worst trade in NFL history.
Henry wasn't and isn't.
Whether he's a better rb can be debated and you can use stats and all that.
However, Henry will never be remembered like Bo and Herschal because they were legends while in college and legends in the NFL while playing.
Henry has never been thought of like that at all by the masses.
Bo became an entire ad campaign. Walker created the greatest/worst trade in NFL history.
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:07 pm to collegefootballisbroken
He's everything I thought Fournette would be.
Henry has really worked hard for it.
Henry has really worked hard for it.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:10 pm to RollTide1987
He’s a fair back IMO. Now, if I were to add 30 pounds to my current frame I believe I would be better than he.
ETA: Good god you gumps need to chill out and take yourselves less seriously
ETA: Good god you gumps need to chill out and take yourselves less seriously
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 9:41 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:13 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Herschal Walker and Bo Jackson were legends in their own time.
Is that why Bo Jackson had the closest Heisman Trophy victory in CFB history up until Mark Ingram in 2009?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:14 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Herschal Walker and Bo Jackson were legends in their own time.
Henry wasn't and isn't.
Whether he's a better rb can be debated and you can use stats and all that.
However, Henry will never be remembered like Bo and Herschal because they were legends while in college and legends in the NFL while playing.
Henry has never been thought of like that at all by the masses.
Bo became an entire ad campaign. Walker created the greatest/worst trade in NFL history.
I don't give a frick about hype, and the fact your argument is based only on hype proves Henry is the best SEC RB.
Go ahead and name all the big games Walker and Georgia won. I'll wait.
I'd be a smartass and name the first one to give you a headstart, but then you wouldn't be able to respond.
Supposed to be the best SEC RB and has 0 career rushing yards against Alabama.
Bo Jackson was always the better back until Henry.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:21 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Herschal Walker and Bo Jackson were legends in their own time.
Henry wasn't and isn't.
Whether he's a better rb can be debated and you can use stats and all that.
However, Henry will never be remembered like Bo and Herschal because they were legends while in college and legends in the NFL while playing.
Henry has never been thought of like that at all by the masses.
Bo became an entire ad campaign. Walker created the greatest/worst trade in NFL history.
So your argument is Henry is actually better but Bo and Herschel were perceived as being better?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:24 pm to 3down10
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I don't give a frick about hype
Cool.
I grew up with Jackson and Walker.
They were living legends while taking snaps. Henry isn't and wasn't.
There is no reason to curse and rant and rave about it. He'll never be considered the best RB the SEC has ever had.
Not when he left, not today and not 100 years from now. He's still a great RB though if that helps your feelings.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:26 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Henry isn't and wasn't.
How do you quantify this?
Sounds to me like you are motivated more by nostalgia than anything else.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:29 pm to jchamil
My argument is that the people....the masses.... determined he isn't the best because they didn't think about him that way. They watched and didn't come to the conclusion that they were watching the best ever in the SEC, as a group.
An individual can make any case they want.
I'm just observing the reality.
Reality.....Bo and Walker were legends in their on time, while playing in the SEC. The people elevated them. They are remembered by the general public as the best of the best the SEC has ever produced at RB.
You disagree? You believe that the general public thinks of Henry in the same way? That they did when he was playing in the SEC?
An individual can make any case they want.
I'm just observing the reality.
Reality.....Bo and Walker were legends in their on time, while playing in the SEC. The people elevated them. They are remembered by the general public as the best of the best the SEC has ever produced at RB.
You disagree? You believe that the general public thinks of Henry in the same way? That they did when he was playing in the SEC?
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:31 pm to RollTide1987
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How do you quantify this?
There are lists.
Going back.
Way back.
On the internet.
Henry isn't on them.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:32 pm to NickPapageorgio
So your argument is based on lists? Do me a favor and don’t vote for the rest of your life.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:41 pm to NickPapageorgio
quote:
My argument is that the people....the masses.... determined he isn't the best because they didn't think about him that way. They watched and didn't come to the conclusion that they were watching the best ever in the SEC, as a group.
An individual can make any case they want.
I'm just observing the reality.
Reality.....Bo and Walker were legends in their on time, while playing in the SEC. The people elevated them. They are remembered by the general public as the best of the best the SEC has ever produced at RB.
You disagree? You believe that the general public thinks of Henry in the same way? That they did when he was playing in the SEC?
You're observing the reality from your age and perspective as someone watching those two growing up. I guarantee there is a good portion of fans today who regard Henry as the best from the SEC and hardly even know much about Bo and Herschel.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:42 pm to RollTide1987
quote:I voted for Trump. I hope it hurts your feelings.
So your argument is based on lists? Do me a favor and don’t vote for the rest of your life.
You asked how I gathered the information to come to the conclusion that basically nobody thinks of Henry as equal to Jackson and Walker as far as all time SEC Rbs.
I responded that there are lots and lots of lists like that. Pre and post Henry's SEC career and he doesn't appear at the top of them.
Cry about it snowflake ??
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:44 pm to Borntoboogy
This.
I thought Fourtenette & Gurley would be HOF, but Henry is amazing. As far as modern RB specimens it’s probably a toss up to me between Henry & Adrian Peterson.
He’s behind Earl Campbell all time though.
I thought Fourtenette & Gurley would be HOF, but Henry is amazing. As far as modern RB specimens it’s probably a toss up to me between Henry & Adrian Peterson.
He’s behind Earl Campbell all time though.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:48 pm to RollTide1987
I’d place him 3rd at the moment in all time SEC running backs behind Bo and Herschel although he obviously had a better pro career than both
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:52 pm to jchamil
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You're observing the reality from your age and perspective as someone watching those two growing up.
Correct.
I, having watched all three during there SEC careers, observed the general reaction of the football world and concluded that Henry has never been considered on the level of Walker and Jackson by the general SEC football fan.
You are also correct that many younger people may not have as deep an understanding as I do since they didn't witness all three as they played in the SEC.
It's just an advantage that comes with age but it can be overcome if a young person educates themselves on a particular topic.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:53 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Henry wasn't and isn't.
Do what now?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:54 pm to RollTide1987
Definitely a top 5 all time SEC back and most likely top 3-5 NFL career depending on how long he plays. I am a bit surprised at how long he’s been able to keep his level of play so high with the short shelf life of good NFL backs.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:56 pm to jchamil
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So your argument is Henry is actually better but Bo and Herschel were perceived as being better?
No.
My argument is that Henry will never be perceived to be better than Walker and Jackson by the general football fan.
I've said it's subjective. I take no position on who is actually better.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:57 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Cool.
I grew up with Jackson and Walker.
OMG, you must be the only one.
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They were living legends while taking snaps. Henry isn't and wasn't.
There is no reason to curse and rant and rave about it. He'll never be considered the best RB the SEC has ever had.
Not when he left, not today and not 100 years from now. He's still a great RB though if that helps your feelings.
I guess by your standards Ryan Williams is the greatest SEC WR of all time...and he did it when was 17 in case you haven't heard.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 3:58 pm
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