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re: Has any coach ever had a more meteoric rise than Gus Malzahn?

Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by Bamascoopfan
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:28 pm to
True, but now they are running a lot of basic read option football that has been around for ages. Gus had to use more tricks with Todd back there.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:37 pm to
I disagree. Immediately after the Tennessee game Chris Todd was reinjured or something, because for that three game losing streak against Arkansas, Kentucky, and LSU he was turrible.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:38 pm to
People will dismiss Malzahn for now, but in five years that guy will have a BCS program rolling.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:40 pm to
idk know if they have. he is a pretty good oc. This year though is short comings are being covered up by the awesome play of cam newton.....he is such a force its easy to call plays for him. Malzahn's offense does well at putting up stats but without that big power guy at some position he can't score on long drives which hurts the defense and hurts the moral of the offense.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:40 pm to
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People will dismiss Malzahn for now, but in five years that guy will have a BCS program rolling.
I bet people thought that about Mike Leach at one point.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:41 pm to
I'm pretty sure Leach took Texas Tech to heights they probably won't see again.


This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 10:42 pm
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:42 pm to
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I'm pretty sure Leach took Texas Tech to heights they probably won't see again.
He really wasn't much better than the previous guy save one year long into his career.
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 10:43 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:44 pm to
the question will be when malzahn is a real coach, will that team field a defense or just two offenses.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:44 pm to
Consistent nine win seasons with the occassional elite season is about all Texas Tech will ever achieve.
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 10:45 pm
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:45 pm to
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Consistent nine win seasons with the occassional elite season is about all Texas Tech will ever achieve.
Compare his winning percentage to the previous guy. I really don't think it was much better at all.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:45 pm to



He's such an expert in how to make defenses look silly, maybe he knows how to play it well.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:45 pm to
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He's such an expert in how to make defenses look silly, maybe he knows how to play it well.
Better yet, find a DC and stay the hell out of the way.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:46 pm to
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He's such an expert in how to make defenses look silly, maybe he knows how to play it well.


i think if he has input his defenses will be extremely fundamentally sound and bend don't break defenses....that seems to be what stops him.
Posted by MedDawg
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:46 pm to
Gerry Faust went from high school coach to head coach at Notre Dame. He didn't do well at ND, but it's hard to imagine any big time program today hiring a head football coach from a high school.
Posted by LSUGradATL
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:47 pm to
Unless something happens and the war eagles tank, Gus is got to be high on everyones list. UGA take a shot at him, or Clemson take a shot at him, or MiamiU or Florida brings him in to be waiting... Or TexasTech or Texas or Kansas State
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:47 pm to
.661 is a hell of a lot better than .550.



So, yeah...


ETA: Why is Mike Leach even a part of this conversation. Malzahn doesn't run the Air Raid and nothing about their philosophies are even remotely similiar.
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 10:48 pm
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 11:10 pm to
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.661 is a hell of a lot better than .550.
Seems to be about 1 game a year.

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ETA: Why is Mike Leach even a part of this conversation. Malzahn doesn't run the Air Raid and nothing about their philosophies are even remotely similiar.
Big points as an OC doesn't mean great success as a HC.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 11:13 pm to
It's a significant improvement, no matter how you slice it.

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Big points as an OC doesn't mean great success as a HC.



Leach was a fine HC, I cannot even grasp why you'd think otherwise. And once again, Leach isn't Malzahn. He's not even similiar to Malzahn coaching wise, personality wise, or physique wise. The only real similiarity is that they both coached offenses that could move the ball well.
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 11:14 pm
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 11:14 pm to
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that HS offense will never work once he's a big time HC


Easy now. I said the same thing a out CUM about 5 yeas ago.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 11:16 pm to
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Malzahn adjusts plays and play calling to fit the talent level and skill sets of this players.


Exactly why he's gonna be a stud wherever he ends up. So thankful Chizik was smart enough to bring him in. If he hits anywhere near what he did with Malzahn, we should be good for years to come.
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