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re: Has any coach ever actually retired from LSU.. or have they all been fired?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:11 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:11 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Why is firing someone midseason a terrible decision?
It's not always.
But if your coach is 5-3 and isn't completely checked out, it's pretty dumb.
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:26 pm to lsufball19
Bo Rein RIP
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:29 pm to 3down10
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It's not always.
But if your coach is 5-3 and isn't completely checked out, it's pretty dumb.
Why?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:30 pm to 3down10
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It's not always.
But if your coach is 5-3 and isn't completely checked out, it's pretty dumb.
Especially when he's the #2 SEC head coach according to SidewalkTiger.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:32 pm to GoGators1995
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Especially when he's the #2 SEC head coach according to SidewalkTiger.
His win percentage was no longer #2 when he was fired.
He was just straight up #2.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:32 pm to SidewalkTiger
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When I tried to defend BK's win percentage, you insisted he wouldn't have made it at Alabama this long.
Most of us insisted we wouldn’t have hired him in the first place
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:35 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Most of us insisted we wouldn’t have hired him in the first place
Then you ended up with BK 2.0
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:40 pm to 3down10
Alabama became the all time abbey normal with Mike Price.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:42 pm to EKG
Arnsparger didn't retire. But he left coaching and became Florida's AD.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:44 pm to mattloc
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:45 pm to 3down10
Are you saying LSU would be in a better position today had they not fired Kelly?
If so, that is an asinine take. He’d done just about everything one can do to blow through any good will he’d ever built, both inside and outside the football team. Several accounts from players and alumni have backed this claim.
There was absolutely zero benefit in keeping him around. Once you know you are going to rebuild, you cut bait and move on.
And to sit here and pretend like Alabama, or any other program in America, would tolerate 6-5 seasons back to back in today’s age is hysterical.
For context, this year, that could be losses to Georgia, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee and Oklahoma. And then repeat it the next year. I don’t give a shite what Alabama did in the 70s. It’s 2025, coaches are paid tens of millions of dollars and rosters are worth tens of millions of dollars. Do not sit here and pretend Alabama is holier than thou and would allow a coach to hang around after those results. They would not, and you know it. Maybe one year at 6-5, but he would not make it the entire next year
If so, that is an asinine take. He’d done just about everything one can do to blow through any good will he’d ever built, both inside and outside the football team. Several accounts from players and alumni have backed this claim.
There was absolutely zero benefit in keeping him around. Once you know you are going to rebuild, you cut bait and move on.
And to sit here and pretend like Alabama, or any other program in America, would tolerate 6-5 seasons back to back in today’s age is hysterical.
For context, this year, that could be losses to Georgia, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee and Oklahoma. And then repeat it the next year. I don’t give a shite what Alabama did in the 70s. It’s 2025, coaches are paid tens of millions of dollars and rosters are worth tens of millions of dollars. Do not sit here and pretend Alabama is holier than thou and would allow a coach to hang around after those results. They would not, and you know it. Maybe one year at 6-5, but he would not make it the entire next year
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Why?
They could still turn things around and win more games.
They will still be working towards the program, recruiting, improving players, etc while currently the majority of your staff is looking to update their resumes.
And if you have a lame duck coach like Dooley at Tennessee, then you want to fire them early because all those things are happening anyway.
But if you got a guy who's still going to work for the program, you wait. Give them the vote of confidence and then at the end of the year drop the hammer.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:52 pm to SidewalkTiger
Of course.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:59 pm to cas4t
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Are you saying LSU would be in a better position today had they not fired Kelly?
Yes
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If so, that is an asinine take. He’d done just about everything one can do to blow through any good will he’d ever built, both inside and outside the football team. Several accounts from players and alumni have backed this claim.
Fire him at the end of the year - or when you can actually afford it.
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Once you know you are going to rebuild, you cut bait and move on.
You rebuilding now? frick no. You look like a dumpster fire desperate to keep making the same mistakes.
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And to sit here and pretend like Alabama, or any other program in America, would tolerate 6-5 seasons back to back in today’s age is hysterical.
For context, this year, that could be losses to Georgia, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee and Oklahoma. And then repeat it the next year. I don’t give a shite what Alabama did in the 70s. It’s 2025, coaches are paid tens of millions of dollars and rosters are worth tens of millions of dollars. Do not sit here and pretend Alabama is holier than thou and would allow a coach to hang around after those results. They would not, and you know it. Maybe one year at 6-5, but he would not make it the entire next year
It depends on the context of what's going on in the program. If Nick Saban went 6-5 back to back, he wouldn't have been fired. If DeBoer does it, then probably so.
Otherwise, it's happened twice in the past 28 years basically.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:59 pm to 3down10
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They could still turn things around and win more games.
They will still be working towards the program, recruiting, improving players, etc while currently the majority of your staff is looking to update their resumes.
And if you have a lame duck coach like Dooley at Tennessee, then you want to fire them early because all those things are happening anyway.
But if you got a guy who's still going to work for the program, you wait. Give them the vote of confidence and then at the end of the year drop the hammer.
Maybe, I don't think any of the works with BK though. By most accounts, he was already checked out and had clearly lost the team.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:05 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Maybe, I don't think any of the works with BK though. By most accounts, he was already checked out and had clearly lost the team.
I think it does because he has no reason to think he's going to be fired with that buyout.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:06 pm to mattloc
If things don't end badly, things tend not to end.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:07 pm to 3down10
I don't know what would have realistically changed; they were already out of the playoff hunt.
BK wouldn't have won vs Alabama or Oklahoma, he was terrible on the road vs decent to good teams.
BK wouldn't have won vs Alabama or Oklahoma, he was terrible on the road vs decent to good teams.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:11 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I don't know what would have realistically changed; they were already out of the playoff hunt.
BK wouldn't have won vs Alabama or Oklahoma, he was terrible on the road vs decent to good teams.
I don't know how how you would have done, but it was made easier by him leaving. You're basically announcing you've given up on the season.
And you still have player development, recruiting, etc.
It's like you guys flip a switch. He's either the best coach ever, or the worst coach ever. When maybe he was just a slightly above average coach the entire time who would have decently finished out the season as he normally does.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:13 pm to 3down10
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And you still have player development, recruiting, etc
If what people are saying is true, he was barely involved in either.
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It's like you guys flip a switch. He's either the best coach ever, or the worst coach ever. When maybe he was just a slightly above average coach the entire time who would have decently finished out the season as he normally does.
Who said he was the best coach ever?
I never thought he was elite or anything, he's just a good coach that was apparently checked out.
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