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re: Ha Ha received money from asst strength coach

Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by BamaELCo
Alabama
Member since Jun 2012
3210 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:48 pm to
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Saying the NCAA has the burden of proving he didn't pay the money back was stupid.


We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:49 pm to
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It does matter. The severity of the punishment has always been proportional to the cooperation that the institution and the individual athletes give.



Well, when he is trying to argue nothing will happen and he won't get in trouble for it because he already paid it back, it doesn't really matter if he lied or not. It is still a violation, with or without cooperation and truthfulness.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8134 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:49 pm to
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Still a violation any way you shake it.


Agree, not arguing point that at all.

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How was he able to repay a short term loan of $500?


Student loan money was deposited in to his account?

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If you dont have to pay for meals or housing it is really hard to spend $500 in short term. Why did he need so much?


Great question. Maybe his Yukon Denali is equipped with dual fuel tanks and both were on empty?
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 3:51 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54192 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:49 pm to
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We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Well, you don't have to acknowledge it, but there is no getting around it.
Posted by Big Lake
Member since Jul 2011
3844 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Three game suspension, the coach fired, everyone moves on with their life.


LSU was in a pretty similar situation and the coach got fired, player got kicked off team, lost 3 scholarships and was put on a 3 year probation.

Y'all are already on probation
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65515 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:49 pm to
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The severity of the punishment has always been proportional to the cooperation that the institution and the individual athletes give.

well, it all depends. LSU self reported in a similar situation, fired the coach, and the player never regained eligibility. The NCAA left the fball program alone, which is what should and will happen with Alabama; however, just because they self reported doesn't mean that will have the desired effect on HaHa's eligibility, although he probably won't be ruled permanently ineligible
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

How was he able to repay a short term loan of $500?



Irrelevant. And should the NCAA come asking I highly doubt they will find anything due to the fact such information would be hidden from them if he got the money in ways that are against the rules.

Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:49 pm to
quote:


Saying the NCAA has the burden of proving he didn't pay the money back was stupid.



quote:


We'll just have to agree to disagree.



I will agree with the lawyer on this one.
Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
1409 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:50 pm to
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Well, when he is trying to argue nothing will happen and he won't get in trouble for it because he already paid it back, it doesn't really matter if he lied or not. It is still a violation, with or without cooperation and truthfulness.


a) something will happen
b) it will be less severe because of his honesty and cooperation
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
14661 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:50 pm to
The NCAA won't touch anything outside of a "slam dunk" case these days. I don't see this being that case. Multiple sources reporting a 2-4 game suspension, at most.
Posted by chizhead
Member since Sep 2012
1048 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:50 pm to
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If every program was as dutiful to ethics as Bama there would be zero tolerance for cheating.
that is so damned funny that I have no words for it.....uncontrolled laughter made me piss on myself
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16325 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:50 pm to
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S.E.C. Crazy


Do you honestly think that Julio Jones and Mark Ingram bought those brand new Tahoes with their own money when they were 19 years old?
Posted by BamaELCo
Alabama
Member since Jun 2012
3210 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:50 pm to
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Three game suspension, the coach fired, everyone moves on with their life.



I'm betting this one has a Rant Life of around 2 or 3 years
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65515 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:51 pm to
i really can't believe a couple Bama fans are now trying to make sense of it by thinking Dix was waiting on student loan money. i mean, really?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:51 pm to
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How was he able to repay a short term loan of $500?


Didn't Fluker have 4 different bank accounts for his various payments?

The bank records Dixon gave to the university are probably the legit ones for his loans and stuff.
Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
1409 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

LSU was in a pretty similar situation and the coach got fired, player got kicked off team, lost 3 scholarships and was put on a 3 year probation.

Y'all are already on probation


I'm not denying that there are parallels between the two situations, but we are not currently on probation. We may get exactly what LSU got....whatever we suggest to the NCAA we self impose.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
14661 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:52 pm to
Everything is speculative right now. Maybe they're right?
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8134 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:52 pm to
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Do you honestly think that Julio Jones and Mark Ingram bought those brand new Tahoes with their own money when they were 19 years old?


yes. Know the dealer who sold them the rides.





























not really.
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:52 pm to
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Do you honestly think that Julio Jones and Mark Ingram bought those brand new Tahoes with their own money when they were 19 years old?


Julio got the Denali right before signing with bama. It was a gift from an uncle in Oklahoma.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65515 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 3:52 pm to
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Multiple sources reporting a 2-4 game suspension, at most.

multiple sources don't know shite, just like all of us. i mean this just came to light last night. you really think a journalist or the operator of a premium website has inside knowledge from the NCAA? sources also frequently get information from message boards like this, seen it plenty from ESPN "insiders"
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 3:54 pm
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