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re: Greg Schiano Out at Tennessee, and the Twitter Mob That Destroyed Him Was 100% Wrong
Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:40 am to Prof
Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:40 am to Prof
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that sort of baggage
His only baggage is what the liars and morons among Tennessee fans and politicians have tried to tar him with. They deserve what they get. Maybe they can hire Miles.
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:42 am to MLawProf
Hey look. A dumbass troll.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:48 am to the_watcher
I do not think this is enough to ever convict someone in court, it is much too muddied for that. Take Schiano, if he did report that about Sandusky, to Bradley, he might rationalized that was enough. But I think most men would disagree.
Look--- all I can say is it is very strange that McQuery testified via deposition about a very bizarre act in a very specific setting and location and time. And then those acts were verified to have occurred by victims.
At the least, that lends enough to the deposition to give it thought when thinking about hiring the face of your program.
Look--- all I can say is it is very strange that McQuery testified via deposition about a very bizarre act in a very specific setting and location and time. And then those acts were verified to have occurred by victims.
At the least, that lends enough to the deposition to give it thought when thinking about hiring the face of your program.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:54 am to tiggerthetooth
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It was a deposition that it was mentioned and it wasn't even admissible in court.
A deposition is the sworn testimony of a witness taken before trial. The witness is placed under oath to tell the truth and lawyers for each party may ask questions. The questions and answers are recorded. ... It need not be repeated if more than one deposition is read.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:13 am to Herman Frisco
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Why would your AD even have Schiano on the coaches to hire list. After reading his background he should have been crossed off the list. He may be a great coach and the charge that he didn't inform the police about the crimes going on at Penn St. may have been false, but that is baggage that he would have brought to the Vols. And they don't need that. So if anyone is at fault its the AD. And anyone who says they would hire this guy is a LPS. No one in their right mind would want this man as the face of their Football program...
Bingo. Nailed it.
The issue isn't Schiano or Tennessee's fan base but their idiot AD. That guy needs to be run out of Knoxville on a rail.
Whatever happens, their program is cooked for the next few years...
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:19 am to Tuscaloosa
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Tennessee’s fanbase and administration currently looks like they’d lose to the short bus in tiddlywinks.
You’re half right. Fan base is done putting up with this shite. 100% admin and Haslams
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:19 am to the_watcher
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Literally nothing? You're now confusing Mqueary and Bradley. Bradley allegedly, according to the kid who was being raped, saw them in the shower. Can the police not do anything about an eye witness account of a child rape? Is victim number 4 lying about Bradley seeing them in the shower?
No, it’s you confusing things this thread is the first I’ve heard a witness claims Bradley saw Sandusky raping him. That’s a separate issue. What I was responding to was Bradley telling McQueary Schiano told Bradley that he (Schiano) saw Sandusky raping a kid. In that scenario, Bradley telling cops Schiano told Bradley he saw something there is nothing the cops can do except talk to Schiano. So get off you off your self righteous high horse.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:23 am to MT555
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It’s a false allegation.
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MT555
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:28 am to H-Town Tiger
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No, it’s you confusing things this thread is the first I’ve heard a witness claims Bradley saw Sandusky raping him.
I think what you are referring to is the victim's testimony. Victim said Bradley saw them in shower and stayed around until they left. Victim did not say Bradley saw the rape, but lingered and the victim speculated Bradley was suspicious and that was why he stuck around.
I do not think the victims ever testified that other coaches saw the actual sex acts, but saw enough to be worried/suspicious.
Again this whole thing is a mess because it was covered up for decades. It makes it hard to know who was covering and knew, who had some idea but stayed quiet and who actively tried to suppress the information.
It would be hard for anyone to convict a lot of these people in court, but it would certainly be something to consider when you are making a hire.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:29 am to A LeBlanc
quote:He will be , but not at Tenner. He's gonna be a Hog.
Lane vs Nick Saban would be fun. Need more coaches who want to piss on Bama in the SEC.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 11:30 am
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:35 am to beatbammer
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Oh look... John Ziegler was born and raised in Bensalem, Pennsylvania.
Gosh, I wonder if he grew up a Penn State/Joe Pa fan? Betcha he did!
By the way, Ziegler was fired from a radio station in Nashville, Tennessee for using the "n" word.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:37 am to Vols&Shaft83
quote:Ya'll did right, dude. frick these asstards. They would have called ya'll Pedo state2.0 ALL THE TIME.
DOES NOT MATTER IF IT'S HEARSAY, THIS IS NOT A COURT OF LAW.
Even being associated with that scandal in any way is a stain that never washes out, and that may not be fair, but that's the way it is.
And if had gone ahead and hired him, you'd be at the front of the lynch mob vilifying us for allowing him to coach with this in his background.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:45 am to Slackaveli
Schiano was a terrible hire, and maybe the Sandusky thing would have been used against Tenner in recruiting. But there are plenty of mainstream outlets that have said that the accusation is basically ridiculous.
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Most of y'all didn't melt over anti-recruiting ammo. Y'all assassinated a man's character. If you did this because you truly believe he looked the other way, that's one thing, but a lot of y'all could care less whether he did or didn't. You just wanted any pretense to keep Schiano out of Knoxville.
Several years back, I was disgusted by Gators who were using rape accusations to justify a reason to get Jameis Winston out of FSU and ruin the rise of the Noles but who could have actually cared less about the young woman involved. I don't blame any Vol who genuinely believes that Schiano was involved being irate. But Vols who reached for this as a reason to justify what they actually wanted - stopping a horribly underwhelming coach from coming to Knoxville - I don't think are any better than those Florida fans back in 2013.
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Most of y'all didn't melt over anti-recruiting ammo. Y'all assassinated a man's character. If you did this because you truly believe he looked the other way, that's one thing, but a lot of y'all could care less whether he did or didn't. You just wanted any pretense to keep Schiano out of Knoxville.
Several years back, I was disgusted by Gators who were using rape accusations to justify a reason to get Jameis Winston out of FSU and ruin the rise of the Noles but who could have actually cared less about the young woman involved. I don't blame any Vol who genuinely believes that Schiano was involved being irate. But Vols who reached for this as a reason to justify what they actually wanted - stopping a horribly underwhelming coach from coming to Knoxville - I don't think are any better than those Florida fans back in 2013.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:47 am to zatetic
Really a lot of schools do terrible things to try to be great. It is the greed factor and I imagine almost every P5 school covers up things like rape for their student athletes. Casting stones about morals is foolish at best for college athletics.
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Last year, Tennessee reached a $2.48 million settlement of a federal lawsuit brought by a group of women who sued the school for the way it handled their allegations of sexual assaults by student-athletes. The suit alleged that the school violated Title IX regulations and created a "hostile sexual environment" through a policy of indifference toward assaults by student-athletes.
All the more reason not to bring in folks with Pedo State taint.
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Last year, Tennessee reached a $2.48 million settlement of a federal lawsuit brought by a group of women who sued the school for the way it handled their allegations of sexual assaults by student-athletes. The suit alleged that the school violated Title IX regulations and created a "hostile sexual environment" through a policy of indifference toward assaults by student-athletes.
All the more reason not to bring in folks with Pedo State taint.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:51 am to TrueMizzou
quote:yep. Fire that stupid fricker. How out of touch can you be? Smack dab in the middle of trump/roy moore / #metoo in 'Merica they try to hire a pedo sympathizer. WTF.
Bingo. Nailed it.
The issue isn't Schiano or Tennessee's fan base but their idiot AD. That guy needs to be run out of Knoxville on a rail.
Whatever happens, their program is cooked for the next few years...
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 11:52 am
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:55 am to LuciusSulla
quote:i get your point, but i dont blame them. The rape shite was convenient as frick, true, but it was enough to pass on Schiano. They are just skipping a step and going on to the next hire. Schiano wouldnt have worked out and would have been a huge embarrassment in the meantime. We would have driven them about this RELENTLESSLY, keep it real.
LuciusSulla
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:02 pm to LuciusSulla
Schiano was never named in the Freeh report. The Freeh report had about 400 names in it.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:13 pm to TrueMizzou
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The issue isn't Schiano or Tennessee's fan base but their idiot AD. That guy needs to be run out of Knoxville on a rail.
Whatever happens, their program is cooked for the next few years...
Remarks about AD have merit. Conluding that UT's program is cooked for the next few years over this is hyperbole.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:51 pm to TigerTalker16
If this is true, they just out did “Mike Im’a Rollin” with the stripper at Bama fiasco!
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