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re: Green, Steele and Releford sent home from LSU; suspended

Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:06 pm to
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Its a false comparison. If there was a three man team, and one player got in trouble, you cant compare it to 33% of the football team getting into trouble. Small group dynamics are different than large groups.



Fine. If 10 football players got suspended, people would be livid. Better?
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:07 pm to
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A bit of info for those who think that weed addiction is nothing---it DAMAGES the brain in ways that the brain never fully recovers. Reefers always screw up and most of the time at a crucial time. GO GRANT 100%--he is da man!!!


So can a lot of things. Cigarettes are a hell of a lot more harmful... and far far farrrrrr more disgusting than weed, yet they're perfectly legal. GTFO.
This post was edited on 2/11/12 at 6:08 pm
Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:07 pm to
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Reefers always screw up and most of the time at a crucial time


LINK?
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:08 pm to
Saban had a huge problem in 2007 with this issue. People were talking about purging the team back then. You can look at the last half of the season and see the internal issues. That said, coaches often talk about the balance between giving good kids second chances or knowing when to give up on them. Basketball teams are inherently small, and the impact of a player's influence on others is exponentially magnified. Grant is making the best decions he can with the information he has. If this is still happening in a couple of years, it's reason for concern. I'm glad he suspended them.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:08 pm to
We want revenge on UK. It's our time to restore order!
Posted by bearcat78
Southeast
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:11 pm to
All of you reefers need to read my post on page 10 and it is based on years of observation.
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:11 pm to
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You don't bother me. You're just another eHardass that wouldn't say shite to someone in real life.


Your ePsychology is astounding. Can I set up some eTherapy with you to work on being a better eMe?



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Also, please explain Cal's "moral shortcomings". As far as I know, he's a good person off the court. Who are you to judge anyone?


First of all, pointing out someone's moral shortcomings does not equal "judging." For example, if I pointed a person has a history of fraud, when deciding whether to trust them, I would not be"judgting" them. In this case, I pointed out that your own coach used an ineligible player to attain wins that were good for the monet, but bad for the program as a whole (see Dubose, Mike.) I made a comparison between your attitude here, and the coach of your favorite team demonstrating a similar attitude in the past. thats not "judging" thats making a comparison.


Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:12 pm to
Alcohol is actually more chemically damaging than weed. I think it's insanely stupid that social norms and perception dictate what's "legal".
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:14 pm to
no
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but if he is suspending these guys for smoking weed I'd rather our coach not act like a dumbass and realize that people smoke weed everyday and it doesnt make them bad people. rules get broken all the time. there are certainly rules which i feel if they violated then they should be suspended for that. but smoking weed is not one of them. its technically not even illegal.

if you owned a company and your 3 best employees smoked weed would you fire them?



If it was my company policy not to allow drug use? In a new york fricking minute. Am I saying i havent used drugs? No. Am I saying I havent used drugs when i worked for places that tested for them? Yes. If my employees are casual about not following my rules, then they are probably not guys i can depend on going forward.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:15 pm to
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secfan123


You're a troll. I have better things to do that give you attention. Buh-Bye!
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
9646 posts
Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:16 pm to
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So can a lot of things. Cigarettes are a hell of a lot more harmful... and far far farrrrrr more disgusting than weed, yet they're perfectly legal. GTFO.


Actually, one joint is equivalent of smoking twenty cigarettes in a day.

LINK
Posted by bearcat78
Southeast
Member since Mar 2010
351 posts
Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:17 pm to
I will not name names, but Saban inherited a very talented QB when he went to da tide---ever wonder why this one could occasionally complete passes to the opposition when no tide player was in the vicinity. Even lately ever see a QB pass it to the defense for no reason at all. Weed=BAD JUDGEMENT.
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
9646 posts
Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:18 pm to
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You're a troll. I have better things to do that give you attention. Buh-Bye!


Before you can e-analyze me anymore? Please eFrued, I have much more to learn from you? Dont e-leave me hanging like this!
This post was edited on 2/11/12 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17733 posts
Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:20 pm to
reefer has always been my problem, , especially if I can't find some.

Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:20 pm to
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All of you reefers need to read my post on page 10 and it is based on years of observation.


I'm not a reefer, but I do know the biological and chemical impact of both. Alcohol has more of an impact on fetuses than even cocaine does, and the ways that brain chemistry and overall health changes from sustained alcohol use are significant. Not to mention addictiveness and impact upon interpersonal relationships. Most things are bad for us, so I don't understand logically why they've chosen alcohol as the legal drug.
Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
3828 posts
Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:22 pm to
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If it was my company policy not to allow drug use? In a new york fricking minute


well then you would end up with a less productive company, especially if 90 percent of your prospective future employees all do the same thing. and when your production goes down so will your stock holders or your customers and so will your wallet. but thats ok, because you wont have any "reefers" to deal with.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:22 pm to
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I will not name names, but Saban inherited a very talented QB when he went to da tide---ever wonder why this one could occasionally complete passes to the opposition when no tide player was in the vicinity. Even lately ever see a QB pass it to the defense for no reason at all. Weed=BAD JUDGEMENT.



Oh good God. So you are saying that interceptions = they are smoking weed?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:23 pm to
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Green, Mitchell, and Steele were all inherited from Gottfried. Releford is the only one Grant recruited. All of the freshmen seem to be good kids.

Like others said, it sounds like they either got into a fight or decided to knight for Mitchell's worthless arse and they got suspended. He can't let players get away with that kind of crap, but at the same time he has to do a better job of preventing them from doing it in the first place.


I think you bring up an interesting point in that most of those kids are Gottfried's.

That said, I understand where you're coming from to a point. You can't let the inmates run the asylum (*cough* Stansbury *cough*), but in defense of Grant it's also tough to corral someone else's players and try to maintain the talent level needed to win.

And when it's all said and done, it was there choice to do whatever stupid shite they did to get the boot. You can have control but you can't always control those guys. I think Grant's done well enough that he should at least get some slack.
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
9646 posts
Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:23 pm to
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Most things are bad for us, so I don't understand logically why they've chosen alcohol as the legal drug.


Tradition.


But its not really the point. they broke a rule. Part of being on a team is putting your own will on the backburner in favor of whats best for the team, like following a coaches rules. When you refuse to do that, you have shown your own wants are more important to you than the team. Such a person generally ends up hurting teams far more than he helps them.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 2/11/12 at 6:23 pm to
I hate people.
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