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re: Greatest QB in SEC History
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:22 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:22 am to Tuscaloosa
quote:Hell, he's not even the best in his family...maybe not the 2nd,.....or 3rd!
He’s not even the best QB in Ole Miss history.
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:25 am to Ancient Astronaut
As far as what they did in college the impact they left on the game and the SEC? I'm going to have to go with Tim Tebow. He was the first ever sophomore to win the Heisman Trophy and was a Heisman finalist in both his junior and senior years. His speech after the loss to Ole Miss in 2008 has gone down in history as he practically willed that team to a national championship that season. His performances in the fourth quarter against Alabama in Atlanta and in the second half of the national championship game against Oklahoma were absolutely clutch.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:29 am to RollTide1987
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He was the first ever sophomore to win the Heisman Trophy
I don't personally think that means much of anythign considering that until the 2000s it wasn't even possible to win it as an underclassman. Herschel finished 3rd as a freshman which was practically unheard of at the time (he should've won that year) and 2nd as a sophomore. The fact that in 1982 he was only the 7th junior to ever win it speaks volumes about voter mindset back then
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His speech after the loss to Ole Miss in 2008 has gone down in history as he practically willed that team to a national championship that season
massively overrated. If UF didn't cream themselves over it and make a plaque for it nobody would still remember it. He didn't will UF to anything, they were simply the better team than everyone else they played. They didn't face another team that was comparable to them until alabama in the SECCG.
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His performances in the fourth quarter against Alabama in Atlanta and in the second half of the national championship game against Oklahoma were absolutely clutch.
yes he was a great QB and made graet plays. Doens't mean he's the greatest that's ever done it in the best league in history.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:40 am to RollTide1987
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His speech after the loss to Ole Miss in 2008 has gone down in history as he practically willed that team to a national championship that season.
He cried and gave the same speech after losing to LSU in 2007. The difference is that UF also lost to UGA 2 games later. That's why no one remembers that speech.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:45 am to WG_Dawg
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WG_Dawg
I'm sorry but I can't take your opinion seriously at all since you have an obvious axe to grind against him as a Georgia fan. Same thing goes for LSU fans. Neither fan base can be perfectly objective in regards to the kid.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:51 am to WG_Dawg
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I don't personally think that means much of anythign considering that until the 2000s it wasn't even possible to win it as an underclassman. Herschel finished 3rd as a freshman
It wasn't impossible. If it was impossible, Herschel wouldn't have been a finalist as a freshman. It was just very difficult. Tebow being the first to do it does means something for that reason.
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Doens't mean he's the greatest that's ever done it in the best league in history.
Tebow is, without question, on any short list
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:51 am to jonnyanony
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Man there was one guy who won two national titles and was in the NY for the Heisman three straight years but I really can't remember his name ...
I think they're counting in college play AND NFL. Personally, I felt like Tebow never got a real shot in the NFL as a QB. Guy was a winner at everything he did.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:53 am to RollTide1987
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I'm sorry but I can't take your opinion seriously at all since you have an obvious axe to grind against him as a Georgia fan
where is my axe? I havne't said anythign that isn't correct.
-Voters didn't vote for underclassmen to win until the aughts. Fact.
-UF was better than every team on their schedule in 08 from ole miss to SECCG. Fact.
-He was great and made great plays. FAct.
What of the above is not true?
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:55 am to lsufball19
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It wasn't impossible.
Well the fact that it literally never happened shows that it was.
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If it was impossible, Herschel wouldn't have been a finalist as a freshman.
he was a finalist due to people voting for him on their lists but not to win. You've lost your mind if you don't think a freshman (or sophomore for that matter) was never, in the history of the sport, the best player in america until the 2000s.
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ebow is, without question, on any short list
of course, I never said otherwise.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:56 am to WG_Dawg
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Well the fact that it literally never happened shows that it was.
If Herschel received votes, it was possible...unless you don't know what impossible means. Maybe the term you're looking for is improbable.
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You've lost your mind if you don't think a freshman (or sophomore for that matter) was never, in the history of the sport, the best player in america until the 2000s.
nice strawman
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of course, I never said otherwise.
then wtf are you arguing here?
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 9:57 am
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:56 am to TexanTiger68
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Personally, I felt like Tebow never got a real shot in the NFL as a QB. Guy was a winner at everything he did.
His throwing mechanic was kind of busted, which still worked in college but in the pros was more-or-less a liability. I'm guessing he wasn't able to overcome it.
Dude had the physique and toughness to definitely make it though.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 9:57 am to Ancient Astronaut
Are we talking about college performance only? If NFL career is included, there's only one SEC QB who is consistently considered among the top 5 QBs in NFL history.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:05 am to lsufball19
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then wtf are you arguing here?
why don't you scroll up a few inches and it will become clear.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:17 am to skrayper
That playoff win against the Steelers I thought would give him another shot but then getting destroyed by the Patriots kind of ended things for him. His mechanics were off yeah but dude was a winner.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:07 pm to WG_Dawg
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why don't you scroll up a few inches and it will become clear.
You dismissed the idea of him being the GOAT but also admit he's on a short-list of guys to be considered as the GOAT. That about cover it?
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:19 pm to skrayper
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Yes.
Technically he's got two Super Bowl MVP trophies to go along with the rings. He also has two wins in the NFL Championship game, in the years before there was even a Super Bowl. So you could view it as he has 4 championships in the highest games he could participate in.
He also played under Ears Whitworth, meaning that - unlike most of the other QBs mentioned - he was on shitty college teams and probably took more of a beating.
That's interesting. I never thought about him not playing for Bear Bryant, I just always assumed he had. He is obviously, hands down, the most successful SEC QB at the NFL level, and by all accounts a great human being.
I am too lazy to look it up, but I bet his stats are a joke compared to players of even 30 years ago. Its just impossible to compare era's in football.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:36 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:38 pm to Ancient Astronaut
It’s clearly Jim Bob Cooter.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 12:40 pm
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