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re: Getting to know the competition.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:28 pm to KaiserSoze99
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:28 pm to KaiserSoze99
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We win the "know-shite-about-NCaA-football-business" trophy.
I am willing to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt if anyone wants to spar with me. I think I still remember most of the Big 12 GOR by heart.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:29 pm to nc14
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:30 pm to SoberAg
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Let me paraphrase the prophetic Cardale Jones, 'we come here to talk football, not school'.
Actually I think we are here to troll other fanbases. At least that is why most are here.
But you CAN talk media rights here. I did it last night.
To me the games in the boardroom are often more exciting than the games on the field.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:31 pm to cardboardboxer
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Tier 3 level of the media rights pyramid
Of course, the SEC doesn't give a flying shite about Tier 1, Tier 2, or Tier 3 games for TV. Particularly since the money for all TV is divided equally among the schools.
From that perspective, no one around here would care about this at all. Covered in "100 Year Decision" pretty well but TV rights stuff is pretty much meaningless in the SEC. As it should be.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:32 pm to cardboardboxer
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To me the games in the boardroom are often more exciting than the games on the field.
Agreed, and as an Aggie, I hope our success on the latter catches up to the former.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:32 pm to cardboardboxer
No question. I was agreeing with you.
I was the guy on TA in 2010 that told the sips to do what we say and get in the SEC with us or perish i obscurity. Of course, you know their stupid, know-nothing responses. No business acumen what so ever.
That thread still gets bumped.
I was the guy on TA in 2010 that told the sips to do what we say and get in the SEC with us or perish i obscurity. Of course, you know their stupid, know-nothing responses. No business acumen what so ever.
That thread still gets bumped.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:34 pm to SoberAg
Change topic to getting to know the Ags and start over. Damn. 
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:36 pm to Tridentds
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Of course, the SEC doesn't give a flying shite about Tier 1, Tier 2, or Tier 3 games for TV. Particularly since the money for all TV is divided equally among the schools. From that perspective, no one around here would care about this at all.
Agreed. As I said we know because we had to know.
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TV rights stuff is pretty much meaningless in the SEC
I disagree 100% on that. It all drives the SEC Network, which is highly important to the future.
Many SEC fans don't even have a clue how the SEC Network works, how it gets paid, what that payment is based on, etc. I think given the rise of such an important revenue generator more should know about it.
Plus if we are talking rights deals, and not just TV rights, that is a topic in the SEC because not all of it is lumped into the SEC Network. A school like Bama is getting paid differently for Tier 4 content than a MSU is. That matters.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:37 pm to nc14
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Change topic to getting to know the Ags and start over. Damn.
Lmao, I had really high hopes for this thread too.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:38 pm to SoberAg
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Agreed, and as an Aggie, I hope our success on the latter catches up to the former.
Amen, nothing I want more.
Until then I will enjoy other boardroom victories like the Chavis hire.
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Of course, you know their stupid, know-nothing responses. No business acumen what so ever.
On Texags sure. But on their forum there are some people who work for cable networks that really know their shite. That is how I honed my skills.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:38 pm to SoberAg
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Lmao, I had really high hopes for this thread too.
Four pages is pretty good.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:43 pm to SoberAg
It probably will. Success in the boardroom is an indispensable precursor to success on the field. The fact that so many boards suck at cfb business gives me great confidence. Take the Chavis situation as an example. To save a few bucks Joe Allegra (or whatever his name is) let the strength of their coaching staff leave. What makes it an even bigger frickup is that they let him go to address a serios, game-changing need for a division rival. Terrible business decision.
The extra money we paid will likely pay off down the road, but if not, it was worth the risk and weakened a competitor in the process.
Bidness. We know it like we know how to sew fat dead bitch skin.
The extra money we paid will likely pay off down the road, but if not, it was worth the risk and weakened a competitor in the process.
Bidness. We know it like we know how to sew fat dead bitch skin.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:50 pm to KaiserSoze99
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What makes it an even bigger frickup is that they let him go to address a serios, game-changing need for a division rival.
This is the part that really puts the lead in my pencil.
How can Allegra let that happen?
IF the hire is a success, it could torpedo tDecline at speeds never thought possible.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:56 pm to SoberAg
At best (for LSU), he will do nothing for A&M on the field, but was probably worth at least 3 wins to LSU. So at best, they gave up 3 wins. Compare that to the potential worst-case scinario, or even a moderate outcome, and it is clear that they probably made a serious error and lost big time.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:59 pm to SoberAg
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How can Allegra let that happen?
My guess is he didn't expect it to happen. He thought Chavis was negotiating and not seriously considering us, so he tried to call the bluff and failed.
One thing in Allerga's (I love that nickname) favor is the fact he has a larger margin for error than us. We NEEDED a splash hire or Sumlin was toast. A wet bag can coach the LSU defense given their talent.
In the long run it might end up being positive for both programs.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 5:02 pm to KaiserSoze99
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they probably made a serious error and lost big time.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 5:30 pm to cardboardboxer
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I disagree 100% on that. It all drives the SEC Network, which is highly important to the future.
Many SEC fans don't even have a clue how the SEC Network works, how it gets paid, what that payment is based on, etc. I think given the rise of such an important revenue generator more should know about it.
Plus if we are talking rights deals, and not just TV rights, that is a topic in the SEC because not all of it is lumped into the SEC Network. A school like Bama is getting paid differently for Tier 4 content than a MSU is. That matters.
Within the context of this discussion which is football centric.
The premise of the original statement was a few Ags knowledge regarding TV rights, business, etc.. as compared to fans of different SEC schools. I said no one around here really cares at all about TV rights deals.
The TV contracts are set. There is around $21M that goes to each school from the standard TV deal. Another $15M (estimated) comes directly from the SEC network. Each school ends up with around $36M at this time.
A school like Bama is not getting paid any more for football on TV than Kentucky. TV money is split evenly. Bama has a separate deal for other sports but zero (none, nada) football games are part of their deal with Learfield (I think). Tiers are irrelevant in the SEC with respect to revenue streams from football of individual schools.
There are no haves and have not in the SEC when it comes to TV rights for football. The money is divided equally.
While there are some deals outside of football with individual teams, I don't know of a single one that pays more than $1.3M annually. Therefore, the TV money for Bama would be in the total range for all sports around 37.3M while the smallest TV revenue for any team in the SEC will be around $36M if they had no other marketing deal at all.
Basically these are trivial amounts and no one gives a shite how the number is arrived at. In the B12 with texass pulling in $37M and WVA pulling in $24M it matters a lot. In the SEC it simply does not matter so no one bothers to dig into the minutia of TV contracts, rights, tiers, etc.. etc..
If you haven't read Loftin's book "100 Year Decision" I highly recommend getting a copy. TV deals are covered quite well in it. Makes for an interesting read.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 5:48 pm to SoberAg
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How can Allegra let that happen?
Who the hell is Allegra?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 6:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/15/15 at 6:43 pm to KaiserSoze99
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