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re: Gene Chizik was Plan B for Iowa State.

Posted on 5/25/09 at 8:27 am to
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 8:27 am to
understand he made his name at the highschool level by putting the QB exclusively in the shotgun. It's pretty well known by now that in order to compete at the highest level, albeit an NFL level, a divisional title level, a conference title level, an SEC level week after week, your QB must be able to operate under center. The auburn people forced the hire on Chizic b/c of his numbers at lower conference and highschool levels and it sounds like there is already a big difference in philosphy there. This was a big failure by Auburn b/c the guy specializes in a gimmick, finnesse approach to moving the ball. The best example I can give you of a great spread vs an average SEC defense was the cotton bowl. TT had no chance against what was billed as a below average SEC secondary. They couldn't tackle, couldn't stop the run, couldn't avoid interceptions, couldn't avoid pressure, couldn't get many guys open, didn't even try to make yards after catch. Another example was the title game. both offenses sloppy, confused, pressured.

When Malzhan starting installing his spread at Arkansas, Herring was calling different blitz packages in 1 vs 1's from all different parts of the field. Malzhan and Mitch was totally and completely lost.
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 8:34 am to
Dear Houston Nutt

Please stop using the screen name wildrebeltime on tigerdroppings.com. While your rants and dribble make for entertaining fun, I am sure your talents and wildcat, rebel, hog formations are needed at Ole Miss. Please stop harassing all hog fans as they are eager to see what a BCS championship coach can accomplish after 10 years of preschool. In closing, thank you for the memories and time but you now coach Ole Miss and this is your team. The Razorbacks have moved on and so should you.

Thank you

Hawgalude
Posted by Cussian
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Mar 2008
1731 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 8:36 am to
Still waiting for Tebow to do a drop back pass. I think UF is adding that wrinkle this year.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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37474 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 8:38 am to
Dribble is a basketball term. Drivel, I think is what you are going for here.
Posted by HawgAlude
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Dribble is a basketball term. Drivel, I think is what you are going for here.


LINK

no dribble like a baby. this fits,,,
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 8:41 am to
Hey...
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
2058 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 8:41 am to
Petrino is an example of a pro-style offense. However, I think his biggest problem is he doesn't put a premium on stopping the run, or the pass for that matter, which is why our defense this year was last for the first time in 10 years and statistically the worst it's ever been and that was by a large margin in a year SEC offenses weren't really that good.

Petrino's game and personality will work in the big east but he has no chance to win at a place like Arkansas.
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
5658 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 8:52 am to
you need to pick a team. Petrino + SEC = SUCCESS

I think Nutts play calling and game is more suited to the Big 12 than the SEC anyway.
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 9:18 am to
I don't think Petrino can win in the SEC. I think he's in over his head. I have numerous examples of things I've seen from him so far but I want to evaluate one more season first.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 9:28 am to
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I don't think Petrino can win in the SEC. I think he's in over his head. I have numerous examples of things I've seen from him so far but I want to evaluate one more season first.


You are so full of shite it's not even funny. You seriously think you can safely evaluate a proven succesful head coach as a failure after his first season at a new program which was in an obvious rebuilding season? If anything, Arkansas steadily improved during last year; their one main consistent problem being their defense. That entire defense was insanely young and will be much better this year.
This post was edited on 5/25/09 at 9:29 am
Posted by bubbalove
austin
Member since Apr 2009
47 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 9:40 am to
Frankly Chizik is a career loser at the D-1 level. Nothing else needs to be said. Why would you choose a LOSER as your head coach???
Posted by AUCatfish
How are yah now?
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Frankly Chizik is a career loser at the D-1 level.


Yeah, that national championship at Texas was a fluke and he had nothing to do with it
Posted by rolltide1283
Pinson
Member since Feb 2007
3362 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 3:25 pm to
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Yeah, that national championship at Texas was a fluke and he had nothing to do with it


He was the DC at Texas and they won soley because of their offense and Vince Young. I don't recall their defense putting up outstanding numbers while Chizik was their. He is a career loser as a HC and we'll just have to give him 2 years to see what he can build at AU.
Posted by superman
Member since Mar 2008
8079 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 3:39 pm to
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He was the Co-Defensive Coordinator at Texas and they won soley because of their offense and Vince Young.


Fixed
Posted by rolltide1283
Pinson
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by bubbalove
austin
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 4:14 pm to
Do you get credit for wins and losses as a coordinator???? Chizik=loser. You guys deserve better.
Posted by AUCatfish
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Chizik=loser.


At Iowa State? Absolutely. Have to give him the benefit of the doubt right now, and see how he does at AU.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

He is a career loser


Iowa State is a consistent loser and was 4-8 the year before he arrived, had been in a decline during the previous years, was considered one of the youngest teams in the country both years he coached, in which those years he coached that young talent was very poor, and lastly, Iowa State had absolutely horrid recruiting classes the previous five years before Chizik was hired. He only had two years to turn that mess around. Hell, even Turner Gill had a 7-17 record in his first two years at Buffalo.
This post was edited on 5/25/09 at 5:49 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

Iowa State is a consistent loser was 4-8 the year before he arrived, had been in a decline, was considered one of the youngest teams in the country both years he coached, in which those years he coached that young talent was very poor, and lastly, Iowa State had absolutely horrid recruiting classes the previous five years before Chizik was hired. He only had two years to turn that mess around. Hell, even Turner Gill had a 7-17 record in his first two years at Buffalo.

What he said.
Posted by rolltide1283
Pinson
Member since Feb 2007
3362 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

Iowa State is a consistent loser and was 4-8 the year before he arrived, had been in a decline during the previous years, was considered one of the youngest teams in the country both years he coached, in which those years he coached that young talent was very poor, and lastly, Iowa State had absolutely horrid recruiting classes the previous five years before Chizik was hired. He only had two years to turn that mess around. Hell, even Turner Gill had a 7-17 record in his first two years at Buffalo.


I agree that he was basically in a no win situation with ISU but that's all there is to judge him on right now. If he rights the ship at AU in a few years, then my opinion of him will change.

Being a HC in the SEC is ALOT more difficult than being a co-DC in the Big 12.
This post was edited on 5/25/09 at 10:15 pm
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