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re: From Petrino, to John L., to Bielema's plan paying off: tFlagship rising

Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:17 pm to
Miles has never built anything. He had a renegade program at OSU, Gundy had a shite load of house cleaning to do after Les.

With what LSU can be and what they are, you guys really are taking the crown from UGA as the most underachieving program in the country.

Your view is just plain wrong, it's pointless to argue with you.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:19 pm to
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Most people logically would assume that a team who started two sophomores and rotated in two true freshman in their secondary would improve quite a bit the next year
Isn't your entire fan base saying that LSU's going to suck this year because we don't have a quarterback even though we had to start a freshman and sophomore last year while ignoring the fact that our last upperclassman starter (Mettenberger) lit up the SEC under Cam Cameron? Bunch of fricking hypocrites
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 7:31 pm
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:23 pm to
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With what LSU can be and what they are, you guys really are taking the crown from UGA as the most underachieving program in the country.
Because UGA has won 2 SEC championships, gone to 2 national championships, won 1 national championship, and won 10+ games in 8/10 of their head coaches seasons right?
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Your view is just plain wrong, it's pointless to argue with you.
I'm sorry that you're a complete moron that wants to talk out of your arse and make ridiculous claims about the best program in the SEC other than Bama in the last 10 years "underachieving". You have no stats or factual information to back up that idiotic claim. Just because you repeat something over and over doesn't make it true unless you have stats to back it up, I have plenty of stats that say Les Miles is a good/successful head coach so go be a dumbfrick somewhere else
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:31 pm to
please tell me LSU's conference records since 2011.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:42 pm to
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why exactly does Arkansas have a chance to win the SEC again?


Why does LSU? They couldn't even beat Arkansas.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:51 pm to
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After reading this I remembered how convinced all the Arkansas fans were on here that they were still going to win the SEC with John L Smith coaching . All the talk of Tyler Wilson being at the helm, and most of the same coaches being in place would lead Arkansas to an SEC championship. It all came crashing down against ULM in War Memorial.


Not this one. I thought we'd struggle if Petrino had stayed and I certainly didn't think JLS would be better. We'd lost too many skill players to even have a shot.

In fairness to those who did think we could contend, I'm sure it's because that's what the national media was telling us. ESPN started pimping us as national title contenders the year before and I can remember laughing about it, because they downplayed us when we were good, but then started pimping us when it was obvious that we'd struggle. When they continued pimping us after Petrino was fired, it was just pathetic, because that just doesn't happen anywhere.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 7:53 pm
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:59 pm to
6-2, 5-3, 4-4. What's your point? That we're supposed to magically continue that trend even though we're returning all of our major starters, have one of the best OL groups in the conference with two first round draft picks, have the best DB's in the conference and a top 3 MLB along with good OLB's and the best DL coach in the conference with plenty of talent, have 4 future draft picks at RB, have some of the best WR's in the conference, and a much improved QB?

And guess what: all of those records that I listed earlier are better than anything Arkansas has accomplished since Petrino left, so again, why are you talking shite about LSU? That's what you call retard logic champ, but way to not respond to absolutely anything I've said and repeatedly change the subject and grasp at straws when you can't respond to my previous posts.

I know that the geniuses on the rant want to say that LSU's underachieving because it's been 3 WHOLE years since we were in the national championship (when's the last time Arky went to an SECCG or natty again?) but as much as I wish we could win the national championship every single year to appease the dumbfricks that are on the SEC rant, it doesn't take away from how much more successful we are than ya'll. Sorry bud, keep grasping at straws though
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 8:02 pm
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:01 pm to
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Why does LSU? They couldn't even beat Arkansas.
Because we've won the SEC and gone to the national championship every 4 years since 2003. It's year 4 again btw bud. And it's funny that you'd bring up our ability to beat Arkansas considering that we skullfricked ya'll 4 straight times before last year and beat your best ever 2011 Petrino team 41-17
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59954 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:04 pm to
shouldn't you have better than a 6-6 regular season record before you declare its working?

Posted by VagueMessage
Springdale, AR
Member since Jun 2013
4187 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:08 pm to
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If your RBs are so great why was Arkansas' rushing offense in conference play so bad? I don't get why you guys keep hyping up your QB and RBs when both are average at best in this conference.


It's not a difficult concept to grasp. When your passing attack was as bad as ours in '14, then your offense becomes too predictable. And no one is "hyping" up our QB, we don't have a second coming in B. Allen and everyone knows that. What we have is a fifth year senior who has statistically improved every year, and will do so this year. He had 20 TD's and 5 interceptions last year, so we have hopes that he will be at least the fourth best in the conference this year, which is more than good enough. What we REALLY need is improved WR play in order for that to mean something. Sometimes our dreadfully subpar passing game gets blamed all on QB, when really it was mostly on the receivers last year.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:24 pm to
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Relentlessly bragging about a two touchdown win against LSU's worst team in 15 years


Same story, different loss.

Seriously, you guys never get beat when it's not your "worst team since ....", and yet, your last undefeated season was over 55 years ago.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:53 pm to
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If your RBs are so great why was Arkansas' rushing offense in conference play so bad? I don't get why you guys keep hyping up your QB and RBs when both are average at best in this conference.


I won't defend our QB play, even though I think Allen has made great strides. Our YPC ratio for our RB's was higher then anyone we played, with the exceptions of Georgia and Auburn. You can credit that to our defense if you want, but some of those other teams also had pretty good defenses and running games. So how do you explain that?

Personally, I don't think our running game was outstanding, but it was better then many believe. It's my belief that our backs are taught to go down and run out of bounds to prevent injuries, which also lowers their numbers. One reason I say this is because Jwill was very good at fighting for extra yardage, but he quit doing it when Bielema arrived.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:00 pm to
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It'd be really nice if your fan base toned it down until something positive happens on the field for ya'll, just throwing that out there




The OP linked a SI article blowing smoke up our arse and you're asking us to tone it down? We've been quite humble throughout the year, so next time check your sights before shooting. Because if you fire at us, you'd be foolish to think we won't fire back.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42854 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:03 pm to
Haven't read the thread, did read the article, but let me guess, Arkansas receives praise and LSU fans feel disrespected?

All Arkansas all the time for them, losing their superbowl 17-0 has really wrecked their confidence level.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:04 pm to
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Seriously, you guys never get beat when it's not your "worst team since ....", and yet, your last undefeated season was over 55 years ago.
What tf are you talking about? Since when is being undefeated a good barometer of how good a football program is? This is why Arkansas fans are known as some of the most clueless on the SEC rant. Anyone that says LSU hasn't had one of the top 3 programs in the country for the last 15 years is an idiot. Plain and simple. Winning 10 games is a miracle for Arkansas and your dumb arse is sitting here saying that LSU sucks because we don't go undefeated enough even though we've only had 2 sub-10 win seasons in the last 12 years. fricking wow why are you so desperate to take away from LSU's undeniable success compared to your crappy team anyway?
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17985 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:07 pm to
Holy wall of text.

Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:12 pm to
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Because we've won the SEC and gone to the national championship every 4 years since 2003. It's year 4 again btw bud. And it's funny that you'd bring up our ability to beat Arkansas considering that we skullfricked ya'll 4 straight times before last year and beat your best ever 2011 Petrino team 41-17


Try 3 close losses and you'd be right. We won 4 years ago, douchebag, and almost beat you with 2 of our worst teams in 2012-13. 2011 was legit, even though LSU's best team ever couldn't get it done against Alabama.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:13 pm to
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The OP linked a SI article blowing smoke up our arse and you're asking us to tone it down?
Yea, tone it down. As I've said 1000 times in this thread, and I know this is hard for Arkansas fans to remember, but ya'll haven't done jack shite under Bert. Weak recruiting, terrible conference record, 10-15 total wins and losses, no wins against quality teams (yes, LSU sucked last year), the list goes on. Tone down the chest beating until ya'll actually do something
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We've been quite humble throughout the year, so next time check your sights before shooting
Yea, most humble fan base on the rant. I see y'all get in petty pissing contests more than any fan base on the rant and ya'll are one of the worst teams in the SEC. How often do Kentucky or Vanderbilt fans say that LSU sucks and underachieves? It sounds fricking asinine when you realize a bunch of fans of a team that hasn't been any better than Vanderbilt in the last 3 years talks shite about Les Miles or LSU football in general in response to me telling ya'll to keep the weird excitement in check until ya'll are actually good
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Because if you fire at us, you'd be foolish to think we won't fire back.
What have ya'll "fired back" exactly? Sure as hell haven't seen any stats being thrown my way 95% of the time. Ya'll are a bunch of delusional pussies that are grasping at straws and making ridiculous statements about the 2nd best program in the SEC since 2005 because someone pointed out that Arkansas' football team has a bunch of weaknesses.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:17 pm to
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Try 3 close losses and you'd be right. We won 4 years ago, douchebag, and almost beat you with 2 of our worst teams in 2012-13.
Nice moral victories we're still 3-1 against ya'll in the last 4 meetings, nobody cares to hear Arkansas of all fanbases bullshite about "almost" winning. We own ya'll's program year in and year out. There's literally no difference at the end of the day between "almost winning" and "losing".
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even though LSU's best team ever couldn't get it done against Alabama.
That's funny, because last time I checked we beat Bama in 2011 dumbass
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
58128 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:19 pm to
Cliff notes?


Does it just say that Bert is fat?
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