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re: Former Bama standout T. Richardson "nothing special or outstanding"
Posted on 5/26/12 at 12:07 pm to ALcapone
Posted on 5/26/12 at 12:07 pm to ALcapone
Matter of opinion....really. Most old school guys would say yes b/c they grew up watching him.
His comments about TR were totally out of line. That aside..... IMO he was one of the greatest athletes of his era...
His comments about TR were totally out of line. That aside..... IMO he was one of the greatest athletes of his era...
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Posted on 5/26/12 at 12:11 pm to ALcapone
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Jim Brown is the best running back in NFL history
Hell no!!
Bammer revisionist:
He departed as the NFL record holder for both single-season (1,863 in 1963) and career rushing (12,312 yards), as well as the all-time leader in rushing touchdowns (106), total touchdowns (126), and all-purpose yards (15,549). He was the first player ever to reach the 100-rushing-touchdowns milestone, and only a few others have done so since, despite the league's expansion to a 16-game season in 1978 (Brown's first four seasons were only 12 games, and his last five were 14 games). Brown's record of scoring 100 touchdowns in only 93 games stood until LaDainian Tomlinson did it in 89 games during the 2006 season. Brown holds the record for total seasons leading the NFL in all-purpose yards (5: 1958–1961, 1964), and is the only rusher in NFL history to average over 100 yards per game for a career. Brown was also a superb receiver out of the backfield, catching 262 passes for 2,499 yards and 20 touchdowns. Every season he played, Brown was voted into the Pro Bowl, and he left the league in style by scoring three touchdowns in his final Pro Bowl game. Perhaps the most amazing feat is that Jim Brown accomplished these records despite never playing past 29 years of age. Brown's 6 games with at least 4 touchdowns remains an NFL record. LaDainian Tomlinson and Marshall Faulk both have five games with 4 touchdowns.
Brown led the league in rushing a record eight times.
He told me, 'Make sure when anyone tackles you he remembers how much it hurts.' He lived by that philosophy and I always followed that advice.
—John Mackey, 1999
Brown's 1,863 rushing yards in the 1963 season remain a Cleveland franchise record. It is currently the oldest franchise record for rushing yards out of all 32 NFL teams. While others have compiled more prodigious statistics, when viewing Brown's standing in the game his style of running must be considered along with statistical measures. He was very difficult to tackle (shown by his leading 5.2 yards per carry), often requiring more than one person to bring him down.[10]
Brown retired far ahead of the second-leading rusher and remains the league's eighth all-time leading rusher, and is still the Cleveland Browns all-time leading rusher.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 1:24 pm to Irons Puppet
jb is still a a-hole
Posted on 5/26/12 at 1:34 pm to Herman Frisco
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jb is still a a-hole
True, but an a-hole that could run with a football.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 1:50 pm to Alahunter
Jim Brown is a tired, old man looking for relevance. He's afraid people will forget about him.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 2:22 pm to AUTiger83
quote:How can we forget him? We always see him on NFL Today and Inside the NFL....
He's afraid people will forget about him.
Very articulate guy....
Posted on 5/26/12 at 3:10 pm to Irons Puppet
blah blah blah. I know all about Jim brown. He's was the best running back of his time. but on the grand scheme he isn't the goat, as you claim. He was ahead of his time. There are a hundred guys in the league today that could what he did back then. He WAS a good athlete but he is a just an attention whore ever since he hung it up
Posted on 5/26/12 at 3:21 pm to ALcapone
The Best RB argument depends on what era you grew up in. The best RB I ever saw was Barry Sanders.
I never saw Bo, Herschel, OJ, etc. They were different types of RBs.
I just remember Barry making all 11 defenders miss on certain plays. He never had the Oline Emitt did or many other play makers.
He could gave has every single record, but he retired early with good health.
So much success depends in where you land. Arian Foster is the best NFL Rb right now, I never thought he would gave better #s than Dmac
I never saw Bo, Herschel, OJ, etc. They were different types of RBs.
I just remember Barry making all 11 defenders miss on certain plays. He never had the Oline Emitt did or many other play makers.
He could gave has every single record, but he retired early with good health.
So much success depends in where you land. Arian Foster is the best NFL Rb right now, I never thought he would gave better #s than Dmac
Posted on 5/26/12 at 4:06 pm to BhamDore
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Arian Foster is the best NFL Rb right now, I never thought he would gave better #s than Dmac
MJD disagrees
Posted on 5/26/12 at 4:12 pm to BhamDore
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The Best RB argument depends on what era you grew up in.
agree with this...good post!
I remember watching Eric Dickerson that one year...and thought he couldn't be stop....
Posted on 5/26/12 at 8:11 pm to BloodBeCrimson
Jim Brown wasn't a CFB analyst for a reason...
and you think you and all your other tea baggers know more of what it takes to play in the NFL?..
and you think you and all your other tea baggers know more of what it takes to play in the NFL?..
Posted on 5/26/12 at 8:50 pm to Alahunter
I don't really see anything that he said which was really out of line. The part about Cleveland needing receivers more than RBs is absolutely true. Also, Trent isn't the natural runner like Peterson or Tomlinson or some of the other really special RBs in recent years. He's a little stiff and isn't fluid as the other guys. His vision also can get a lot better because he has a tendency to miss holes and he doesn't have great breakaway speed. I won't be surprised if Trent averages less than four yards a carry this year because teams will be stacking the box and daring Colt McCoy to beat them with his arm.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 9:02 pm to AUTiger83
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Jim Brown is a tired, old man looking for relevance. He's afraid people will forget about him.
This is what it's all about. Think about it, the Browns haven't had a "franchise RB" since Jim Brown(that i can think of).
Dude is just scared his mantle will be taken. He should embrace T Rich and even if he felt this way, he shouldn't publicize it.
IMO
Posted on 5/26/12 at 10:50 pm to Unbiased Bama Fan
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I don't really see anything that he said which was really out of line. The part about Cleveland needing receivers more than RBs is absolutely true.
I don't disagree with them picking Trent Richardson but I think they totally dropped the ball on the Brandon Weeden pick. Is it to crazy to think Weeden could have still be there in the second round? If they weren't comfortable with a WR at that pick, they could have gone O-line at least, oh well. Just my opinion.
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I won't be surprised if Trent averages less than four yards a carry this year because teams will be stacking the box and daring Colt McCoy to beat them with his arm.
I'll bet Weeden sees the field also. Why draft a 28 year old kid and let him ride the bench? Cleveland looks to have a difficult schedule, could get pretty dicey.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 10:55 pm to Irons Puppet
Jim Brown was great, but I would take Barry Sanders any day of the week. Sorry Jimmy...
Posted on 5/26/12 at 11:25 pm to ALcapone
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There are a hundred guys in the league today that could what he did back then
oh for god's sake
Posted on 5/26/12 at 11:30 pm to Unbiased Bama Fan
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He's a little stiff and isn't fluid as the other guys
lol
Posted on 5/27/12 at 12:09 am to Funky Tide 8
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lol
If you think Trent's as fluid or as natural of a runner as prime LT or Peterson, you're kidding yourself. He's nowhere near those guys.
Posted on 5/27/12 at 12:18 am to LooseCannon22282
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Is it to crazy to think Weeden could have still be there in the second round? If they weren't comfortable with a WR at that pick, they could have gone O-line at least, oh well. Just my opinion.
I thought the Browns should have drafted DeCastro with their other 1st round pick and drafted a WR like Jeffery or Hill in the early 2nd. They basically would have shored up all their weaknesses besides QB in the first day of the draft. And with McCoy at QB, the Browns would be bad enough in 2012 to get a franchise QB in the first round of the 2013 draft. A RB can be a difference-maker but only when he's one of the last missing pieces on a strong roster. Just look at LT with the Chargers. He already had 1000 carries under his belt before the Chargers finally made the playoffs in 2004. And the Chargers didn't become a Super Bowl contender until 2006, LT's sixth year in the league. LT was basically done as a premier RB after 2007 with the Chargers only being a Super Bowl caliber team in two of those years. It doesn't make much sense to take a RB early when your roster has a ton of holes and are years away from Super Bowl contention.
Posted on 5/27/12 at 12:23 am to BhamDore
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The best RB I ever saw was Barry Sanders.
The greatness of Sanders and Earl Campbell will never be fully known. When they stepped on the field they were the sole focus of the D. This is no longer the case today with any RB (or WR) as far as I know.
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