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re: Florida reinstates three players suspended for Idaho game

Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:24 pm to
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Because he is being criticized on discipline issues when he has been highly effective on discipline. The goal of discipline is to change behavior, not to punish for punishment alone
none of his has anything to do with the criticism. the criticism is he said suspended for a game and then reversed it. then he tried to redefine his meaning conveniently after the fact. pretty much everyone can see it made him look bad
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:25 pm to
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Can't control weather, players were suspended for that game. If they were suspended for another week, it would equal a 2 week suspension.


Were the suspensions noted for the "Idaho" game or just A game?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140994 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:27 pm to
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pretty much everyone can see it made him look bad


You are wrong. Even most of the crazies here said that they were fine with it. In fact, many LSU fans were good with it. You, you are mad. That's saying something. Anyway, have a great weekend. You aren't any fun.
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
3393 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:29 pm to
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do you know anything other than that about the situation? I invite you to look into it because your perception is mistaken

I don't have a problem with how any coach deals with their players. I don't like hypocrisy. Was that punishment of Mills made public? Or did you know that because you follow the team well? How can you get upset when people say 'team vote' but not care when Muschamp says he has disciplined the players?
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hmm. perhaps i'm not the only one who can see muschamp's inconsistency. moreover, it might be getting discussion because there's actually something to discuss

People start threads and post regularly about LSU's team vote. Seems like there's something to discuss
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:39 pm to
You are clearly not a goal oriented person. Who gives a shite how it looks if the punishment works?

Perception does not equal reality.

Muschamp's results speak for themselves.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:39 pm to
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I don't like hypocrisy
so you're ok with muschamp saying suspended and them not serving it? forget about non-game stuff that muschamp didn't mention before the weather-cancelled game that he conveniently mentioned after the weather cancelled game

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Was that punishment of Mills made public?
it's been reported by multiple news outlets.

mills' suspension

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How can you get upset when people say 'team vote' but not care when Muschamp says he has disciplined the players?
because the whole "team vote" meme is just juvenile, right up there with the corndog reference. as I said, the vote took place in addition to punishments. but no one wants to include that because it doesn't fit the miles is a bufoon narrative.

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People start threads and post regularly about LSU's team vote. Seems like there's something to discuss
there is. how misinformed people are about it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:42 pm to
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how misinformed people are about it.


Tell me all you know about what the players' did, what other punishments they served and how much better you'd be at disciplining them. Fill us in.

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so you're ok with muschamp saying suspended and them not serving it? forget about non-game stuff that muschamp didn't mention before the weather-cancelled game that he conveniently mentioned after the weather cancelled game


Here ya' go. Maybe these appease you.

Muschamp is lax on discipline and allows the players to run amok. He should be fired now for being a turd.

Happy?

Also, tell us again that you don't care. We are almost ready to believe you.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:43 pm to
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You are clearly not a goal oriented person
that's not what he was talking about beforehand but it was conveniently what he was talking about afterwards.

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Who gives a shite how it looks if the punishment works?
then don't say suspended for a game. say time out or loss of privileges or no texting or community service or whatever. if you say game, then man up and make it a game.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140994 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:48 pm to
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that's not what he was talking about beforehand


Link to what he said beforehand?

I'm going to help you out.

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“Jay-nard Bostwick and Darious Cummings will not play due to a violation of team rules and Demarcus Robinson will miss the game due to a university sanction that is now resolved,”


Problem solved.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:52 pm to
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quote:
that's not what he was talking about beforehand



Link to what he said beforehand?

I'm going to help you out.

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“Jay-nard Bostwick and Darious Cummings will not play due to a violation of team rules and Demarcus Robinson will miss the game due to a university sanction that is now resolved,”



Problem solved.

Also-

"I expect all three players to return next week."

LINK
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:54 pm to
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You are clearly not a goal oriented person

that's not what he was talking about beforehand but it was conveniently what he was talking about afterwards.

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Who gives a shite how it looks if the punishment works?

then don't say suspended for a game. say time out or loss of privileges or no texting or community service or whatever. if you say game, then man up and make it a game.


Not a game, the game (Idaho).

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:55 pm to
I don't have a problem with the reinstatement.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:00 pm to
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Muschamp is lax on discipline and allows the players to run amok. He should be fired now for being a turd. Happy?
I have no idea whether it's true on the whole or not. and for the record, I don't want any sec team to have these issues. it brings down the whole conference. it's disappointing that he was even put in the position to begin with by players who make bad decisions.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140994 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:03 pm to
Again, what did they do that was so bad to make the conference look bad?

Perhaps they missed a meeting or have been late a couple of times. You are clearly upset about this so do tell us all about their terrible transgressions that have caused you so much public angst.

You still don't care though, right?
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:08 pm to
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Muschamp is lax on discipline and allows the players to run amok. He should be fired now for being a turd. Happy?


I have no idea whether it's true on the whole or not.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:13 pm to
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I have no idea whether it's true on the whole or not. and for the record, I don't want any sec team to have these issues. it brings down the whole conference. it's disappointing that he was even put in the position to begin with by players who make bad decisions.


Muschamp is not only bringing down UF from the inside but the whole conference. Man-Georgian Candidate doing work.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58957 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:20 pm to
I'm thinking the Florida (And others) point is...why do you care? Why is it such a big deal to you? Do you think it gives them an edge in their coming game? Do you think it hampers the players ability to act in a correct manner?

I think we just aren't sure why YOU care about it so much, and do you care about all the other teams as much?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58957 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:21 pm to
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Man-Georgian Candidate doing work.


Getting to the point even Richt can't control him.

Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:13 pm to
Why does anybody give two shits about this?

Seriously, UF has had basically 0 discipline issues for more than a year now, it's obvious Muschamp is in control over that aspect of the program.

And it's not like Muschamp reinstated them for a big game. It's fricking Eastern Michigan. Why does anyone care one way or the other?

Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:15 pm to
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Getting to the point even Richt can't control him.


Richt was never in control. Uga is the one driving that bus.
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