Started By
Message

re: Florida is now the SEC east favorite

Posted on 6/23/19 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 5:25 pm to
Our OLine will be a question agreed. Our S&C improvement and Hevesy makes me feel okay about it. The spring game really did nothing it was kind of a fun game nothing more. Didnt take much from it at all.

We shall see. If the line is decent, the offense should be very dangerous. Mullen is very good at creating points when he has the weapons.
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
3743 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

Offense doesn’t improve when replacing 4 starters on the OL.



Does it improve when you lose a 1000 yard rusher, your top 4 receiver targets, your best tight end, and your offensive coordinator?
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

Best matchup to watch Miami vs UF: Hurricane DL vs Gator OL. That’ll offer a lot of insight into the direction of UF in 2019. Should be a low scoring game.


Florida is going to hang 40+ on Miami.

Let’s keep this same energy come august 25th
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Does it improve when you lose a 1000 yard rusher, your top 4 receiver targets, your best tight end, and your offensive coordinator?



When you already have an elite offense, improvement isn’t as realistic as maintaining is.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

Does it improve when you lose a 1000 yard rusher, your top 4 receiver targets, your best tight end, and your offensive coordinator


Woerner is going to put up better numbers than Nauta.

I'd take Zeus over Holyfield any day when given the choice (credit to Holyfield's durability, though. Not every back can do that).

And we had 6 targets with over 20 receptions (and no one with over 570 yards). We aren't losing anything that won't be replaced with the talent on hand (higher recruiting rankings on hand if that means anything).
Posted by CalDawg
Member since Aug 2016
1444 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

Does it improve when you lose a 1000 yard rusher, your top 4 receiver targets, your best tight end, and your offensive coordinator?


I get what you’re saying. But games are won and lost in the trenches. If the OL gives the QB time, WRs will get open. If the OL can make holes, the RB will get yards. GA has a top 5 OL.

On the other hand, an inexperienced OL allows sacks & TFL. 4 and outs start to take a toll on their D. UF’s OL is inexperienced & considered the weakest unit.

quote:

Florida is going to hang 40+ on Miami.


First game of the season, probably not. Typically, the D is more developed than the O. And being the first game of UF’s inexperienced OL vs a decent DL, should be a low scoring game. IF Miami keeps it close into the 4th, will UF crack? More pressure on the Gators to win bc it’s expected.
Posted by Lou2theZou
Chicago
Member since Jun 2019
528 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:47 am to
They are gonna have to learn how to beat Mizzou first MIZ
Posted by TrackDawg
Sugar Hill
Member since Sep 2013
966 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:54 am to
quote:

They’ll be front runners until they come to Columbia, Missouri for their usual beatdown



Spunky
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:38 am to
Missouri is a nightmare for us. I don't know if it's the offensive style or just timing of the game...somethings going on there. We've under performed vs Missouri oddly for years.
Posted by CalDawg
Member since Aug 2016
1444 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:55 am to
One reason UF struggled with Mizzou — below average rush:

2017
Perine 66 yds
Zaire 17 yds

2018
Perine 42 yds
Scarlett 33 yds

Meanwhile, Mizzou ran for 220+ both games.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:59 am to
True. Just don't know why. Missouri usually isn't the best offense nor best defensive lines we face. Just odd how much we falter vs them. I don't know if it's scheme, we catch them at bad times, or we just mismatch with them for some reason. They just whip us
Posted by so_comfort
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
725 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Does it improve when you lose a 1000 yard rusher,


Two reasons this is a silly criticism to make.

First, this was a valid criticism after the 2017 season with UGA losing Chubb and Michel, however it proved to be inconsequential to the success of the 2018 running game. If UGA can not lose a step in the run game when replacing two high draft picks last year, I doubt losing an un-drafted free agent is going to wreck the whole running game next year.

Second, the person they will be replacing was a good SEC RB not a great or elite one. Don't get me wrong, I loved watching baby Holyfield play, but there wasn't anything special about him other than he ran hard and broke tackles. He had sub-par speed as evidenced by the NFL combine, and didn't have a ton of wiggle. He's the kind of player that can be replaced rather easily and UGA has no shortage of candidates.

quote:

your top 4 receiver targets


This criticism is much more valid. Losing Ridley, Hardman, and Godwin was hard enough, but throwing Holloman's dismissal on top of that was a blow. UGA will have to do somethings to mitigate the loss in order to give the younger and/or less experienced guys some time to develop.

quote:

your best tight end


Not only the best TE that UGA has, but also a 5 star true FR that transferred. The TE depth is super thin. With that being said, people forget that Woerner was a 4 star ranked as the 138th overall prospect in America by 24/7's composite rankings. He's not going to be bad in anyway. The issue will be depth and times when UGA wants to run the heavy sets with multiple TEs.

quote:

and your offensive coordinator


I understand this criticism. James Coley had a shot previously at Miami, and didn't do much of anything that screams "great offensive coordinator". The biggest positive with promoting Coley from the staff is continuity. The playbook and terminology won't change significantly from last year, which is especially significant with an experienced QB and OL. Those are the guys that need to have a grasp of the playbook for a successful season.

Keep this old adage in mind when weighting how big a coordinator change will be for UGA, "It's not the X's and the O's but the Jimmys and the Joes."



OVERALL - Yes, the loss of the vast majority of experienced WRs and TEs is significant, but being strong, proven, and elite at OL, QB, and RB is easily better than being weak at the line of scrimmage in the SEC.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Keep this old adage in mind when weighting how big a coordinator change will be for UGA, "It's not the X's and the O's but the Jimmys and the Joes."



This is true to an extent, but where are the X’s and O’s coming from on yalls entire offensive staff? Coley had one failed year with Miami. It’s easy to rely on talent, but if your coach doesn’t have much of a feel for playcalling AND you’re figuring out your new personnel, then there’s some potential issues that can’t be overlooked.
Posted by so_comfort
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
725 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:57 am to
quote:

This is true to an extent, but where are the X’s and O’s coming from on yalls entire offensive staff? Coley had one failed year with Miami. It’s easy to rely on talent, but if your coach doesn’t have much of a feel for playcalling AND you’re figuring out your new personnel, then there’s some potential issues that can’t be overlooked.


Ummmmmm ..... He had three years as the OC in Miami. None were super successful, and it could be argued there was a regression each year. I don't know enough about the Miami roster or the circumstances to speak confidently on that part though.

It's obvious he isn't a world beater. He's not innovative. He's not throwing out things that DCs haven't prepared for. He's average as grits. But, that's OK. He doesn't have to be.

UGA will be successful on offense with the same formula they've used the last two years. Pound the rock with an elite OL and group of talented RBs. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to call those plays.

Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41290 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:59 am to
Illinois fan proclaims Florida the favorite to win the SEC East. Good to know.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:05 am to
quote:

It's obvious he isn't a world beater. He's not innovative. He's not throwing out things that DCs haven't prepared for. He's average as grits. But, that's OK. He doesn't have to be.


This plus massive losses in production is not going to cause any issues? I just don’t buy that. I’m not saying Georgia won’t win the East, I’m not saying they won’t go 10-2 or 11-1 again, I’m just saying that it’s going to be more of a struggle.

And when teams can stop the run and force Georgia to adjust, how will he respond? By putting the game in Fromm’s hands. Good hands to have to put the game in, but he’ll be working with brand new guys that he won’t have the same chemistry with. There’s going to be some lumps this year, regardless of ridiculous talent.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15972 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:09 am to
quote:

True. Just don't know why. Missouri usually isn't the best offense nor best defensive lines we face


Depends on the year, mizzous dline was excellent a few years back, mizzou may be the best Oline you guys face next year.
Posted by so_comfort
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
725 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:10 am to
quote:

And when teams can stop the run and force Georgia to adjust, how will he respond?


There isn't a team on the schedule that has the DL to do this until possibly Auburn and then Bama in the title game. That's how much better UGA's Jimmy's are than our regular season opponent's Joe's.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:11 am to
quote:

This plus massive losses in production is not going to cause any issues?

Over the last two decades or so, teams with recruiting rankings like Georgia’s over the past few years have tended to absorb losses in skill positions pretty well.
Jump to page
Page 1 2 3 4 5 ... 10
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 10Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter