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re: Florida Fans and LSU fans unite...
Posted on 9/14/09 at 11:36 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
Posted on 9/14/09 at 11:36 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
I have no problem with the Florida/LSU game being every year. This year we need as many good teams as we can get, because the rest of our schedule has decided to suck so bad. If you add up the spreads in the Tennessee, Georgia and FSU games, it's going to be about 60 or 70. So yeah, I'm looking forward to a little competition.
And LSU has never beaten us when we had an otherwise great team. Tennessee has. FSU has. But when we've lost to LSU, we usually weren't all that great anyway. I see no reason to take away the traditions that other teams have. And we are building our own tradition here. As long as both teams are good, this will be one of the premier matchups in the country.
And LSU has never beaten us when we had an otherwise great team. Tennessee has. FSU has. But when we've lost to LSU, we usually weren't all that great anyway. I see no reason to take away the traditions that other teams have. And we are building our own tradition here. As long as both teams are good, this will be one of the premier matchups in the country.
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Posted on 9/15/09 at 12:37 am to dirtymoney
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And LSU has never beaten us when we had an otherwise great team.
1997 comes to mind. Y'all were ranked #1 in the country at the time. I agree with you, though. I love the match-up and do not understand the people on here who just want an easier road to the championship game each year.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 12:50 am to pelicanpride
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1997 comes to mind. Y'all were ranked #1 in the country at the time. I agree with you, though. I love the match-up and do not understand the people on here who just want an easier road to the championship game each year.
Ah, right. I was not yet a Gator fan then, I started my freshman year at UF in 1998. I was watching the Tahd go 4-7 or something. But we also lost to the Pups that year, so we couldn't have been that great.
I can see why people do want an easier road to the title game, especially when you see Big Ten teams who get to walk into it without a problem. We have a sorry system for determining the national champion, one in which teams can play vastly different quality schedules and still be judged on number of wins. Even for the SEC, lopsided schedules can make a big difference. In 2002, we went 5-0 against the East but didn't get play in Atlanta because the Pups had an easier West schedule. But it's just the way the rotation goes in a 12 team conference.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 1:12 am to dirtymoney
Yeah, there is certainly no perfect way to do it as long as we're only playing an 8-game conference schedule, but there is certainly a "closer to perfect" way than the current setup, no question.
There should be no permanent opponent from the other division. Play three schools from the other division one year, and play the other three the next. Then do it over again, so on and so on.
This will happen eventually, it's just a matter of time. As an LSU fan (who along with Florida) get the worst draw out of this deal, I would rather the change come sooner rather than later, though.
There should be no permanent opponent from the other division. Play three schools from the other division one year, and play the other three the next. Then do it over again, so on and so on.
This will happen eventually, it's just a matter of time. As an LSU fan (who along with Florida) get the worst draw out of this deal, I would rather the change come sooner rather than later, though.
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 1:13 am
Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:00 am to JPLSU1981
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Although I love the rivalry that has grown between LSU and Florida this decade as both schools have dominated this conference over the course of the decade
Hate to break it to you, but Florida does not consider LSU one of it's main rivals. You MIGHT be 5th after UGA, UT, FSU, and Miami.
Further, why do all LSU fans get on their knees to compare themselves to Florida? Florida doesn't consider you corndogs as their equals. And you haven't "dominated" the SEC this decade. Yeah, you've won 3 SEC titles, which is great. You had a decent team in 2001 in a very shitty SEC, a great team in 2003, and the worst national championship team in several decades in 2007. Alabama won 8 SEC titles in the 1970s. Now THAT's domination.
Alabama and Tennessee have been the powerhouses of the SEC since its inception. Sure, Alabama had been down for a while prior to last year and UT is down now. But these two schools have more wins, higher winning percentages, more national championships, etc. than any other team in the SEC. And both will be great programs long after LSU has gone on another 50 year hiatus of irrelevancy.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 2:23 am to RMFTBama
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Hate to break it to you, but Florida does not consider LSU one of it's main rivals. You MIGHT be 5th after UGA, UT, FSU, and Miami.
You can never have too many rivals. LSU is on a big board in the Gator locker room with the number of days remaining to that game being counted down.
I appreciate that you realize that LSU is not quite our equal, but they have certainly been the class of the SEC West this decade. I'm happy for you that Alabama was awesome before most of us were born, but Ole Miss also used to be good. Princeton used to dominate.
I don't really care who we play in the West. We actually seem to play better against LSU than Miss State and Ole Miss. We've had our troubles with Auburn even when were clearly better.
Sure, Alabama and Tennessee used to dominate the SEC. But Florida and Tennessee have an even record against each other right now, and I have a feeling that we will take the series lead in a few days. Past results do not necessarily indicate future performance.
Of the SEC West teams, I think LSU has the biggest long-term upside. But I'm still not scared to play them. I think a good new rivalry could help out both schools in national profile and recruiting. And I think we'll still get the better of them no matter how good they get.
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 2:24 am
Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:17 am to dirtymoney
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You can never have too many rivals. LSU is on a big board in the Gator locker room with the number of days remaining to that game being counted down.
No, but you can only have so many major rivalries. Ole Miss is a rival to Alabama, but they are not considered one of our big ones.
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I'm happy for you that Alabama was awesome before most of us were born, but Ole Miss also used to be good. Princeton used to dominate.
Yes, Ole Miss and Princeton used to be "good." Alabama used to be much better than good. It might be hard to comprehend, but Florida's dominance in the past few years isn't even in the same stratosphere as Alabama's during the 1970s. Past successes may seem trivial to some people, but tradition is a major reason why programs like Alabama, Oklahoma, and Michigan have the ability to go from mediocre to national title contenders in a couple of years with the right coaches.
And I'm glad you're confident enough in Florida's future to assume that you'll continue to dominate your SEC competition, but I will go ahead and tell you that dominance won't be sustained forever. Urban Meyer will not be at Florida forever, and Tim Tebow is leaving this year. Further, you guys have been EXTREMELY fortunate that FSU and Miami have been down during these last few years. If and when those two teams return to prominence, you'll find that getting every recruit you want in Florida isn't as easy as it may seem right now.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 3:41 am to okietiger
Did I seriously just read someone suggest a 6 game conference schedule? LOL what a stupid idea. Better would be to go to an 11 game SEC schedule. Everyone faces everyone, one single non conference game. Let's face it, if you're facing Miss St, Kentucky, and Vandy every year, that's 3 tune up games for the better SEC programs, and NO ONE could question whether an undefeated or even 1 loss SEC team deserved to be in the BCSCG with that scheudle. Imagine Arkansas playing the SEC field and TAMU in Dallas for example, or Florida playing FSU as their sole OOC game, etc etc. Would make the image of the SEC even stronger.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 6:44 am to bcshog
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Did I seriously just read someone suggest a 6 game conference schedule? LOL what a stupid idea. Better would be to go to an 11 game SEC schedule. Everyone faces everyone, one single non conference game.
I like this idea, that way we dont have to lose the Bama TN game. I am sory but part of the draw to sec football and games that draw national attention are going to be the Iron Bowl/ Bama TN/ and liek it or not Fla LSU. These games garner attention from cfb fans across the nation.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 7:05 am to dirtymoney
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I have no problem with the Florida/LSU game being every year. This year we need as many good teams as we can get
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It could possibly be considered a problem if the two schools were constantly meeting a second time in the SECCG, but since this has never even happened once, I don't see how the schools can complain.
Sure, it messes up LSU's overall SEC record to have to play UF every year, but those are just stats. When it comes to what's really important--i.e., actually getting a team's arse into the BCS NCG--the LSU/UF matchup has actually helped both teams in recent years.
Sure, I suppose that a school could make up the SOS slack with a better OOC opponent 3-out-of-every-5 years, but honestly, why either team would want to discontinue the nascent rivalry now is beyond me.
Go Gator.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 7:21 am to dirtymoney
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And LSU has never beaten us when we had an otherwise great team.
Retarded. #1 team when you got beat in '97. One loss team that was Top 10 in '05 and '07 when you got beat by the Tigahs.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 7:23 am to dirtymoney
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Alabama was awesome before most of us were born, but Ole Miss also used to be good. Princeton used to dominate.
Did you just compare Alabama to OM and Princeton?
Posted on 9/15/09 at 7:28 am to RMFTBama
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Further, why do all LSU fans get on their knees to compare themselves to Florida? Florida doesn't consider you corndogs as their equals. And you haven't "dominated" the SEC this decade. Yeah, you've won 3 SEC titles, which is great. You had a decent team in 2001 in a very shitty SEC, a great team in 2003, and the worst national championship team in several decades in 2007.
"Bitter, party of one?"
4-0 in BCS bowls since '01 with 2 National Championships and 3 SEC championships. That is dominating the conference because no one else in the West did that, and no one even came close.
By the way, were you even alive in the '70's?
Posted on 9/15/09 at 7:31 am to RedElephants
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Did you just compare Alabama to OM and Princeton?
"Oh shite, some pooped in my Wheaties and done made fun of me and da other Bammers!"
Yes he did. Bama has been nothing compared to schools like LSU, Florida, USC, Miami, etc. since the early 90's. Sorry but that's reality.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 7:41 am to okietiger
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okietiger
You're like a knat at a family bar-b-que. What a tool.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 7:43 am to RedElephants
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You're like a knat at a family bar-b-que.
What a tool.
"Solid" response sir.
And you're like an Alabama fan on LSU-run message board. DIPSHIT.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 7:53 am to okietiger
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And you're like an Alabama fan on LSU-run message board. DIPSHIT
I told you that you're lost. How many times do I have to tell you that the SEC Rant is a Bama board?
Take your arse to the Tiger Rant if you want to chug the purple and gold koolaid like all the rest of the rantards.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 8:04 am to okietiger
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And LSU has never beaten us when we had an otherwise great team.
Yes, but the 21-21 tie against the professionally paid Gators of 1984 was glorious.
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 8:57 am
Posted on 9/15/09 at 8:06 am to dirtymoney
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And LSU has never beaten us when we had an otherwise great team
You guys under 25 shouldn't use "never" so freely when talking SEC football or basketball. I don't care if you think LSU is a big rival or not. For starters, Florida has had very few "great teams". A lot of that is how "great" may be defined. LSU came into Gainesville and wore out then #4 Florida 24-13 that wasn't that close. #9 Florida was pulverized by LSU 37-14 in 1977. #1 Florida was beaten by LSU 28-21 in 1997.
Those may not be a lot of examples,but by the same token,Florida isn't Alabama,Notre Dame or Southern Cal with a lot of potential examples,either.
You Gators just keep thinking every game this year will be 56-6.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 8:21 am to RMFTBama
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Hate to break it to you, but Florida does not consider LSU one of it's main rivals. You MIGHT be 5th after UGA, UT, FSU, and Miami.
Further, why do all LSU fans get on their knees to compare themselves to Florida? Florida doesn't consider you corndogs as their equals. And you haven't "dominated" the SEC this decade. Yeah, you've won 3 SEC titles, which is great. You had a decent team in 2001 in a very shitty SEC, a great team in 2003, and the worst national championship team in several decades in 2007. Alabama won 8 SEC titles in the 1970s. Now THAT's domination.
Alabama and Tennessee have been the powerhouses of the SEC since its inception. Sure, Alabama had been down for a while prior to last year and UT is down now. But these two schools have more wins, higher winning percentages, more national championships, etc. than any other team in the SEC. And both will be great programs long after LSU has gone on another 50 year hiatus of irrelevancy.
Why so defensive? At least try to camoflage your insecurities by at least touching - no matter how briefly - on the original topic.
And FWIW, this is a great college football site ... LINK
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 8:26 am
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