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re: Florida Coaches with an SEC Title?
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:48 pm to captdalton
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:48 pm to captdalton
quote:and the Gators have won more than 1/4 of all the SEC championships and the 2nd most but you’re saying what? What are we talking about again? I’m old.
So roughly 1/3 of conference members won a championship during that period.
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:50 pm to captdalton
Just to remind everyone of the original post and question.
It sounds like the answer is Galen Hall and Charley Pell. They each would have won one but were either ineligible or it was vacated. Is that correct? I don’t see any for Bachman or Stanley or Cody or Lieb or Wolf or Woodruff or Graves or Dickey or Zook or Muschamp or McElwain or Mullen or Napier. Is that correct or did I miss one in the last 100 years?
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Besides Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer, which Florida coaches have won a SEC title? Are there any?
It sounds like the answer is Galen Hall and Charley Pell. They each would have won one but were either ineligible or it was vacated. Is that correct? I don’t see any for Bachman or Stanley or Cody or Lieb or Wolf or Woodruff or Graves or Dickey or Zook or Muschamp or McElwain or Mullen or Napier. Is that correct or did I miss one in the last 100 years?
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:54 pm to captdalton
I already mentioned that UFs first SEC title was in 84. Not sure why you’re mentioning coaches before then? It’s a pretty easy question to answer. Not sure what’s your point is?
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:59 pm to captdalton
How many coaches after the Bear have won SEC titles for Bama? 3?
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:07 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
quote:Gators almost captured the national title in 1928 but a 1-pt road loss ended their spotless record. We also had our first football All American and several other players earned conference honors.
The entire state of Florida was irrelevant in football prior to the 80s.
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Among the many football highlights of 1928 were the Gators' 26–6 victory over the Georgia Bulldogs, which ended a six-game losing streak versus the Bulldogs, and the controversial 13-12 loss to Tennessee ending their bid at an undefeated season and possible Rose Bowl berth.
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The Gators led the nation in scoring with 336 points, and were remembered by many sports commentators as the best Florida football team until at least the 1960s.
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Success comes and goes.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:09 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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and the Gators have won more than 1/4 of all the SEC championships and the 2nd most but you’re saying what? What are we talking about again? I’m old.
No, Florida does not have 1/4 of all SEC titles or second most. That last number is just since 1990. That represents the Spurrier and Meyer runs.
All time, even if you count Pell and Dickey’s vacated conference championships, they are behind these teams in number of official SEC championships.
Alabama (30)
Georgia - (14)
Tennessee - (13 )
LSU (12)
That would out them in fifth in number of conference titles all time. They have 10% of all conference titles, not 25%. Like I said earlier, they are a borderline top 1/3 program.
Texas and Oklahoma obviously just joined the SEC. But if you give them credit for SWC or Big 12 championships; Florida is behind them too.
Florida is currently tied with Auburn as the 7th best program in the conference. They have the same number of conference titles, their winning percentage is the exact same, and Florida has one more national title (3) than Auburn (2). After this season Florida will have 8th place all to themselves. Square in the middle of the pack.
That is why some of these posts that insinuate or flat out say Florida can get most any coach they want because they are Florida seem odd to me.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:11 pm to LuciusSulla
Vandy did it because Roy Kramer was the AD and he was a Tennessee Vol 100% . Tennessee just hated Florida.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:16 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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How many coaches after the Bear have won SEC titles for Bama? 3?
Bill Curry, Gene Stallings, Mike Dubose, Nick Saban. So 4 of the 7 coaches that coached at least one full season since 1983 won a SEC title. Perkins, Francione and Shula did not win SEC titles.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:28 pm to captdalton
quote:So not much different than UF…
Bill Curry, Gene Stallings, Mike Dubose, Nick Saban. So 4 of the 7 coaches that coached at least one full season since 1983 won a SEC title. Perkins, Francione and Shula did not win SEC titles.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:33 pm to captdalton
quote:I preface my posts by saying SINCE 1980.
That would out them in fifth in number of conference titles all time. They have 10% of all conference titles, not 25%. Like I said earlier, they are a borderline top 1/3 program. That is why some of these posts that insinuate or flat out say Florida can get most any coach they want because they are Florida seem odd to me.
You started this thread asking how many coaches at UF have SEC titles but it sounds like you had another agenda. Now, you’re saying that you think it’s odd Florida can get any coach that they want. Who ever said that? Maybe your thread should have said this instead.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:36 pm to captdalton
Okay, so the real point you’re trying to make is that you think UF is the 8th best team in the SEC. Maybe that should have been your thread title…
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:37 pm to captdalton
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Bill Curry, Gene Stallings, Mike Dubose, Nick Saban. So 4 of the 7 coaches that coached at least one full season since 1983 won a SEC title. Perkins, Francione and Shula did not win SEC titles
I mean Bama is easily the most accomplished program of all time. Anyone tryin to compare the two is silly. Again I don’t think anyone would consider Florida a traditional power bc the program was pretty irrelevant in the early decades of college football.
Florida is probably considered a “premier program” bc it can easily be called a top 10 program in terms of national and conference championships since the modern era of college football (1973).
You get called a premier program when you accomplish things few schools do, Florida is pretty much 2nd to Alabama in terms of overall success in the last 30 years in the premier conference in football. Does 30 years make it a traditional power? No, but I think insinuating it is a second rate program when the majority of football fans have seen Florida win multiple championships is a stretch - and it’s not like it was a quick run like Clemson or a freak anomaly like Auburn. It was 8 Conference championships and 3 national titles. Again, pretty much second only to Bama in a pretty long timeframe to judge.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:39 pm to GoGators1995
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And what do those same sources say about all of your forfeited and vacated wins?
It says Alabama has 30 official SEC titles. Not sure how many were vacated. It looks like Florida lost two, because they show you with 8. Tied with Auburn.
SEC Titles By School
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:46 pm to FireDanMullen
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You get called a premier program when you accomplish things few schools do
Well, you guys have had three losing seasons in a row. That is some kind of accomplishment. And again, something you are tied with Auburn for.
Florida is going to have a losing record this year. This will be their fourth in a row. Premiere top 10 programs do not have 4 losing seasons in a row. Maybe you and Nebraska can grab a beer and reminisce about the 90s.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:56 pm to captdalton
quote:Well you guys had 4 losing seasons in a row in 1950s. Shame, shame, shame. Was that some type of accomplishment? You also had losing seasons with vacated wins too most recently. We can cripple fight with the best of them.
Well, you guys have had three losing seasons in a row. That is some kind of accomplishment. And again, something you are tied with Auburn for.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:58 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Op started a thread to piss on UF and now have moved to Nebraska. Bravo.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:08 am to captdalton
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Well, you guys have had three losing seasons in a row. That is some kind of accomplishment. And again, something you are tied with Auburn for. Florida is going to have a losing record this year. This will be their fourth in a row. Premiere top 10 programs do not have 4 losing seasons in a row. Maybe you and Nebraska can grab a beer and reminisce about the 90s.
LSU had 6 losing seasons a row in the 90s. I think everyone would consider them a premier program. If you want to talk shite about Florida being bad now then at least be transparent instead of presenting arbitrary points as objective facts that define a program lmao. “4 losing seasons so everything else is irrelevant “ lmao Just talk shite it’s a fricking message board coward.
You asked how can anyone consider Florida a premier program?
There’s 6 teams that have multiple championships in the 21st century. Florida is one of them.
There’s 4 teams that won 3 championships in the last 30 years. Florida is one of them. Yep there’s been bad seasons, still don’t really know what your point is besides backdoor comments lol
So yeah we technically are a top 10 program in championships in the timeframe I gave lmao. Definitely would not say we’re a top 10 overall program but I also don’t think anyone is arguing Florida is Bama but if you wanna talk shite just be transparent you fagg
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 12:12 am
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:09 am to GeorgeWest
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There was no SEC champion in 1984. UF was ineligible.
It was won on the field, the players have SECC rings still.
It was later vacated on some SEC BS.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 12:20 am
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:15 am to captdalton
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It says Alabama has 30 official SEC titles. Not sure how many were vacated. It looks like Florida lost two, because they show you with 8. Tied with Auburn.
Lost 3.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 4:59 am to captdalton
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So why is Florida considered such a premiere program?
The only people who consider Florida a premier program are people who do not know anything about CFB history. Florida has always been a mid to low level SEC team except for the Spurrier / Meyer era. That accounts for 15% of their history.
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