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Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:54 pm to TearsofKnowshon
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:54 pm to TearsofKnowshon
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It would be unwise to underestimate Tathan.
I mean, can he even see over the offensive line?
According to some Miami fans, he's not even going to win the starting job. I think they're kind of jacked up at that position to be honest, it'll take a few years to fix.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 1:55 pm
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:01 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
So I haven’t looked at Miami’s roster or o-lime and I know their starting QB is still up in the air. I expected UF to win the game vs Miami.
Having said that, Enos is a good OC and already has a book on Grantham. If your star and dime players don’t know Grantham’s calls and checks I expect Enos to attack those positions from the very first play from scrimmage. If the rumors are true and suspensions happen for the Miami game its going to be a much closer game now.
Having said that, Enos is a good OC and already has a book on Grantham. If your star and dime players don’t know Grantham’s calls and checks I expect Enos to attack those positions from the very first play from scrimmage. If the rumors are true and suspensions happen for the Miami game its going to be a much closer game now.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:05 pm to GruvenDawg
Our STAR is Trey Dean, who will 100% start. The backup STAR isn't in, and having said that: Enos has really only ever had a decent year and that was at Alabama with a generational Quarterback. McElwain looked good in that offense, too.
I'm not saying that Miami can't beat us, but we are head and shoulders a better team from the coaching standpoint and the talent isn't at such a disparity to negate that.
2004–2005 Cincinnati (QB)
2006 Michigan State (QB)
2007–2009 Michigan State (RB)
2010–2014 Central Michigan
2015–2017 Arkansas (OC/QB)
2018 Michigan (Offensive Assistant)
2018 Alabama (AHC/QB)
2019–present Miami (FL) (OC/QB)
The dude's been an OC for 4 years out of the last 15 years. None of those places have been amazing jobs where he made a great impact.
I have no idea why he's going to make a great impact now.
I'm not saying that Miami can't beat us, but we are head and shoulders a better team from the coaching standpoint and the talent isn't at such a disparity to negate that.
2004–2005 Cincinnati (QB)
2006 Michigan State (QB)
2007–2009 Michigan State (RB)
2010–2014 Central Michigan
2015–2017 Arkansas (OC/QB)
2018 Michigan (Offensive Assistant)
2018 Alabama (AHC/QB)
2019–present Miami (FL) (OC/QB)
The dude's been an OC for 4 years out of the last 15 years. None of those places have been amazing jobs where he made a great impact.
I have no idea why he's going to make a great impact now.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:06 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I mean, can he even see over the offensive line? According to some Miami fans, he's not even going to win the starting job. I think they're kind of jacked up at that position to be honest, it'll take a few years to fix.
To be honest, I just remembered he played for Miami and that his name is Tathan. Figured I’d remind everyone else as well.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:14 pm to TearsofKnowshon
No it's good, though, to remind everyone when Justin Fields transferred to Ohio State, dethroned Tathan only for Tathan to sit on the bench for the next team he transferred to.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:15 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
And the NCAA gave him a waiver to play immediately too
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:17 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I'm not saying that Miami can't beat us, but we are head and shoulders a better team from the coaching standpoint and the talent isn't at such a disparity to negate that
For once I have to agree with Straws, The talent gap in players and coaches is to big. If all the drama from the offseason roles over into the season then I could see them struggle with Miami, but not lose
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:29 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
But have you seen tate’s New girlfriend? So he still wins.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:33 pm to WG_Dawg
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comical that people keep bringing up that fact like it's some kind of slight or insult. Early era-Richt was phenomenal and one of the hottest up and coming coaches in america. I mean, is it really an insult to point out 2 division titles, 1 SEC title, and a major (CFP/BCS) bowl win in your first 3 years as a head coach? I think that's great company to be compared to.
It’s mind blowing. Straws has made the same stupid point within the last week as well.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:52 pm to djsdawg
This is kind of why I hate whenever you come into a conversation. Most fans here just have fun jabbing at each other and we even have moments where we stop firing to laugh together collectively at things.
You can stop being autistic, now.
The point was never that Richt wasn't a good coach, the point was that you guys fired him to get the same results. Maybe Kirby does a little better, but he's not getting you a Championship any time soon.
You can stop being autistic, now.
The point was never that Richt wasn't a good coach, the point was that you guys fired him to get the same results. Maybe Kirby does a little better, but he's not getting you a Championship any time soon.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:58 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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the point was that you guys fired him to get the same results.
The same results as 15 years earlier?
Great analysis straws.
Did you fire McElwain to get the same results as the Florida 2003 season? That 2003 team did have a better conference record, but that coaches poll wouldn't put them in the top 10.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:58 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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The point was never that Richt wasn't a good coach, the point was that you guys fired him to get the same results.
We fired richt in 2004? News to me. We fired richt because the last 3 years of his tenure ranged from underachieving to downright BAD. Aside from the blip in 2012 his 3 seasons prior to that also ranged from underachieving to BAD. And we have, almost instantly, gotten better returns that what we fired richt for. You're completely blind not to see that.
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Maybe Kirby does a little better,
he's already done much better. Even if the on field W-L records are similar, we have never bene set up this well for the future. Our LOS recruiting, top to bottom roster management, overall recruiting in general, state of the facilities, etc have never been better.
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he's not getting you a Championship any time soon.
He's already won a championship but if you're referring to simply natioanl championships, I think it's foolish to state so assuredly that he can't, considering what he's already accomplished in 3 years as a head coach.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You don’t like it when I join because I effectively destroy all your weak arse points, and that’s not fun for you. This is why you always stoop to low level insults for no good reason, and ignore the substance of my posts.
Anyways, We fired richt because old richt wasn’t as good as young richt. Did you really not notice a difference? That says a lot.
Kirby already got us a secc, and should have us in the mnc discussion for years. All we need are the lucky breaks that have eluded us.
Anyways, We fired richt because old richt wasn’t as good as young richt. Did you really not notice a difference? That says a lot.
Kirby already got us a secc, and should have us in the mnc discussion for years. All we need are the lucky breaks that have eluded us.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:04 pm to djsdawg
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We fired richt because old richt wasn’t as good as young richt. Did you really not notice a difference? That says a lot.
anyone who doens't see a difference in 02-05 richt and 14-15 richt is either intentionally untruthful, not paying attention, or mildly retarded. It'd be like saying you can't tell a difference in how mike shula and saban run their programs.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:10 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You can stop being autistic, now.
One might offer up the same advice to you.
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The point was never that Richt wasn't a good coach, the point was that you guys fired him to get the same results.
Every single time you attempt to make this "point", it's also immediately pointed out that Richt circa 2003-2005 was not on the hot seat. If Richt in 2015 was still developing teams to the caliber that he was back then, we'd likely be looking at a resurgent USC making the East a really big pain in the arse.
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Maybe Kirby does a little better
Kirby has done a *lot* better than Richt would have been projected to do over the past 3 seasons... His time in Miami makes a pretty convincing case that his best years were behind him as a coach.
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but he's not getting you a Championship any time soon.
It's already been pointed out, but it bears repeating, "a championship" has already been accomplished. We're one of a small handful of teams who have even made the playoffs... and we finished one spot out of them last year. I'll take Smart's accomplishments over any active coach not named Saban/Dabo/and *maybe* Riley at a minimum at this point.
You fired McElwain who won the East 2 out of 3 years for a guy who lost 3 games against the East in his first year, including ending a 30+ year streak against Kentucky AT HOME. I'm not even that down on Mullen... I think he'll get you guys back to a competitive offense, and statistically your defense should look great under Grantham.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:12 pm to WG_Dawg
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anyone who doens't see a difference in 02-05 richt and 14-15 richt is either intentionally untruthful, not paying attention, or mildly retarded.
Think about what poster we are responding to.
He definitely pays attention.
Is he intentionally untruthful or mildly retarded?
He did predict in 2017 that Florida would run the table after their Vandy win (they went 1-6 following that game).
He also predicted in 2018 that Florida's defense would maintain their 15 ppg allowed (top 10 ranking). Immediately following that stance, they gave up 33 ppg for the next 4 weeks.
Mildly retarded may be more likely by a hair.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:16 pm to djsdawg
See, this is why the retardation of these Dog threads always ends up with hundreds of responses and pages of pages of nonsense.
No one is saying early Richt is the same as old Richt.
Everyone is saying: Richt couldn't get it done in the beginning either and just went on to be a good but not great coach after having the same chops to be a "great" coach in the beginning.
When do you guys think Kirby's bringing back the 'ship exactly? Is it next year, maybe the year after that? In the next five years? When?
And you destroy points no one makes. It's easy to be undefeated when all you do is slay straw dragons all day and night and then crow about your victories.
You are, after all, the absolute dumbfrick who thinks regular season wins count more than championships.
No one is saying early Richt is the same as old Richt.
Everyone is saying: Richt couldn't get it done in the beginning either and just went on to be a good but not great coach after having the same chops to be a "great" coach in the beginning.
When do you guys think Kirby's bringing back the 'ship exactly? Is it next year, maybe the year after that? In the next five years? When?
And you destroy points no one makes. It's easy to be undefeated when all you do is slay straw dragons all day and night and then crow about your victories.
You are, after all, the absolute dumbfrick who thinks regular season wins count more than championships.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:18 pm to fibonaccisquared
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You fired McElwain who won the East 2 out of 3 years for a guy who lost 3 games against the East in his first year, including ending a 30+ year streak against Kentucky AT HOME.
Yep we fired a coach that went 4-7 (really should have been 2-9 when you consider how the Kentucky and Tennessee games were won) and replaced him with a coach that went 10-3 with the same roster full of 3 stars.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:22 pm to Chad 23
They want us to be upset about a top 10 finish while finishing around the same ballpark of Kirby.
All dem cruits and no ships to show for it. If only they gave trophies for recruiting.
All dem cruits and no ships to show for it.
If only they gave trophies for recruiting.Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:38 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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is why the retardation of these Dog threads always ends up with hundreds of responses and pages of pages of nonsense.
Look at your spin with the bs claim that I only introduce straw-men. That’s just a cop out to get away from any substantive discussion about the flaws of your posts. Another strategy is the low level flame, and add in imaginary quotes about regular wins and championships. Amazing to see you use all your acts in one post.
Look at you trying to spin your “same results” comment, so you poorly worded your point at best. That’s still a bad look for you, and now you dig a deeper hole.
Coaches are fired for their recent results. Everyone seems to understand this but you. We hired Kirby to do better than that, and so far he has done very well. That’s the far more relevant comparison in a coaching charge rather than what the previous coach did early in his career.
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When do you guys think Kirby's bringing back the 'ship exactly? Is it next year, maybe the year after that? In the next five years? When?
It can be any given year when your program is very well run.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 3:48 pm
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