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Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:33 pm to SaturdayNAthens
Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:33 pm to SaturdayNAthens
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Does anyone really believe Mullen would actually suspend players before a big game? Get real! Unless they were caught on camera strangling their sweetie, swigging whiskey and snorting coke while robbing the local 7/11 Dan is going to do what ole Dan always does. You know the drill by now - “ we are waiting for the investigation to finish. Besides they are wonderful guys, choir boys actually, and deserve a seventh chance. We care about discipline here at UF. The media needs to stop harassing our wonderful student athletes.” If these guys are actually suspended they are either low level bench warmers or the SWAT team is on the way
And yet UG leads in the Fulmer Cup standings this off season while Mullen is 5-5 in players leaving that had serious charges against them, although most were dropped.
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:40 pm to UFMatt
There is a huge difference between smoking a little weed, underage drinking in a bar, and having a little tussle in same bar than choking and beating women. ( what is that now? 5 or 6 beating and choking arrests? A staffer trying to blow up a girlfriends car? ) All the cases resulted in arrests but some arrests are definitely more serious than others. Get back to us when UF can go a couple of weeks without sending some poor woman to the ER
Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:43 pm to UFMatt
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I really like the graph because it helps me prove a point that I have mentioned several times. The only reason, UGa leads this series is due to their domination early in the series (before they put face masks on helmets). Since the 1950s the series has been close with UF holding a slight lead. Since then both teams have had streaks of domination. The 70s-80s for Georgia and the 90s - 00s for Florida.
It’s been a roller coaster for sure. Unfortunately you can’t throw out the first part of the ride just to fit your narrative.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:44 pm to GruvenDawg
Always good to hear about bad things happening to Flawda
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:45 pm to UFMatt
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I really like the graph because it helps me prove a point that I have mentioned several times. The only reason, UGa leads this series is due to their domination early in the series (before they put face masks on helmets).
"I like it because I can pick and choose what I determine is valid" I could just as easily look at the chart and say, the only reason UF doesn't have a similar record against UGA as does Vandy is due to 2 coaches... Spurrier and Woodruff - accounted for roughly 40% of your total wins against UGA. It's just picking and choosing stats that support my hypothesis, regardless of whether it's noteworthy or not.
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Since the 1950s the series has been close with UF holding a slight lead. Since then both teams have had streaks of domination. The 70s-80s for Georgia and the 90s - 00s for Florida.
Arbitrarily selecting the 1950s as relevant to the discussion is just odd... you can talk about modern football... last decade, last 15 years, maybe even the last 20 years and conceivably be in the realm of decent comparison, but there's little about football in 2019 that resembles football in 1989 even, let alone 1950.
Facemasks on helmets was a pretty insignificant change in the quality of football played at the time. Would be much more valuable to look at integration as a point of reference, SEC expansion periods, SECCG creation, etc... I'm not trying to knock UF as a program, simply that you've got a very odd point of reference to try and justify something that you want to be true. Fans want affirmation over information though... "if it supports my beliefs, it's valid"...
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:05 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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We get it Straws. You don't have depth issues. If you did Mullen would coach up and develop the backups anyways. Just remember that you don't have depth issues after you guys play LSU, Aub, and USC before us...No excuses
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Concliffe was barely on the two deep and is listed as an "Or" with the other backup -- similarly, the other two guys behind the NT are crosstrained and will get snaps there as well.
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Only if we lose about 2 or 3 players on the OL, so far so good. We're fine there, so you can stop praying for problems.
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Has been blown way out of proportion. Even if we lost two safeties and two CBs we'd still be okay -- all of the backups have reps. Trey Dean could move to CB instead of STAR and Burney could move to STAR if necessary.
This propaganda isn't going to help your narrative
We get it Straws. You don't have depth issues. If you did Mullen would coach up and develop the backups anyways. Just remember that you don't have depth issues after you guys play LSU, Aub, and USC before us...No excuses
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:11 pm to GruvenDawg
The way things are going at UF with all the transfers and injuries I’d be surprised if they can even field a team by the time they play UGA. But, hey, they are on the brink of greatness! Just ask ole Dan “Butch Jones” Mullen.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:11 pm to GruvenDawg
Jesus you don't read or comprehend anything, no wonder you think this off-season deserves a thread.
Something you always say but never mean.
We don't have depth issues now for the Miami game you absolute retard.
Anyone can get injured, we lost 9 guys to a credit card scandal a few years ago -- things happen. But you saying that we have depth problems for Miami is the most exaggerated bullshite in this thread right now.
I outlined how many players we would need to lose to have depth problems.
Lose two more interior DL.
Lose three DBs (any place).
Lose two or three OL.
All three would need at least one starter and we haven't lost one yet. :lol:
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We get it Straws
Something you always say but never mean.
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Just remember that you don't have depth issues after you guys play LSU, Aub, and USC before us...No excuses
We don't have depth issues now for the Miami game you absolute retard.
Anyone can get injured, we lost 9 guys to a credit card scandal a few years ago -- things happen. But you saying that we have depth problems for Miami is the most exaggerated bullshite in this thread right now.
I outlined how many players we would need to lose to have depth problems.
Lose two more interior DL.
Lose three DBs (any place).
Lose two or three OL.
All three would need at least one starter and we haven't lost one yet. :lol:
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:14 pm to SaturdayNAthens
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There is a huge difference between smoking a little weed, underage drinking in a bar, and having a little tussle in same bar than choking and beating women.
"Later that day, without legal representation, Holloman confessed to striking his former girlfriend after an argument grew physical in his dorm room.
Holloman’s former girlfriend also accused him of choking her during the incident."
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:16 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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We don't have depth issues now for the Miami game you absolute retard.
Anyone can get injured, we lost 9 guys to a credit card scandal a few years ago -- things happen. But you saying that we have depth problems for Miami is the most exaggerated bull shite in this thread right now.
I outlined how many players we would need to lose to have depth problems.
Lose two more interior DL.
Lose three DBs (any place).
Lose two or three OL.
All three would need at least one starter and we haven't lost one yet.
Again.. you either are satisfied with your depth or you are not... no half measures here. Yes, any team can get hit with a rash of injuries at one position and have to start a walk-on at RB or some nonsense... but what is being discussed here is not that...
Presuming you don't lose 4+ at any one single position group "bucket" (OL, DB, DL) - which would mean you're dropping outside of your 2 deep for starters - are you saying you're happy with your depth across the board? Miami vs LSU, Auburn, UGA game is irrelevant. you either have sufficient depth or you don't.
It's important to catalog your exact answer for posterity sake.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:20 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
And he was GONE from our program. UGA does not tolerate this type of behavior. While it seems UF is still waiting on 5-6 investigations to “finish up”. They probably will end someday - my guess is sometime around mid January
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:21 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Again.. you either are satisfied with your depth or you are not...
This can change from week to week -- going into the Miami game I'm unconcerned with any part of our roster right now outside of maybe the OL because I'd need to see more.
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Presuming you don't lose 4+ at any one single position group "bucket" (OL, DB, DL) - which would mean you're dropping outside of your 2 deep for starters - are you saying you're happy with your depth across the board?
Yes.
DB we have four different safeties who could fill in at any DB position if absolutely need be. Wouldn't be ideal but losing 3 CBs (Dean, Wilson, Henderson) would never be fixed by any backup ever in logical circumstances.
DL I'm not worried even a little bit. We would literally have to lose four more guys.
OL as I said, is the only one where I'm a little iffy on that.
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Yes, any team can get hit with a rash of injuries at one position and have to start a walk-on at RB or some nonsense... but what is being discussed here is not that...
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DT depth is now a concern heading into the Miami game along with OL and DB's.
No, that's not what we're talking about.
Maybe that's what you're talking about, but at the moment I'm putting to rest the absurdity that there are serious glaring problems for the Miami game when there are none.
That can change down the road later provided we have a slew of injuries/suspensions or other nonsense.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:23 pm to SaturdayNAthens
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And he was GONE from our program. UGA does not tolerate this type of behavior. While it seems UF is still waiting on 5-6 investigations to “finish up”. They probably will end someday - my guess is sometime around mid January
Which player is still on the team that was accused of beating their girlfriend?
You don't think it's better to wait for an investigation to finish before ruining a young man's career? "Innocent until proven guilty" is kind of a staple in my life having been falsely accused of sexual battery (and being cleared), but if you require more that's on you I guess.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:36 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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But you saying that we have depth problems for Miami is the most exaggerated bull shite in this thread right now.
Depth issues on making it through the season. If you think you are going through the SEC season and not lose multiple guys on your 2 deep for multiple games you are crazy. It doesn't happen. You guys are an injury or 2 away at multiple positions. That is a depth issue and it is a product of poor recruiting and attrition under McElwain and Mullen.
I am trying to tell you UGA lived it for years under Richt. That is what your roster looks like now. Great starting 22, solid 44 but Razor thin at multiple positions. You have like 75 +/- scholarship guys left on your roster prior to season ending inures. I think that puts you guys at around the SEC travel squad size of 70 before you even play a game. Depth issue. Not sure if I can make it any clearer for you.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:44 pm to GruvenDawg
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You guys are an injury or 2 away at multiple positions.
Name them. I'll give you OL to get the easy one out.
What other positions are in trouble with "one or two" injuries?
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Depth issues on making it through the season
You were the one who said we had a depth issue going into the Miami game, you absolute moron.
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DT depth is now a concern heading into the Miami game along with OL and DB's.
We 100% do not have depth problems at DT or DB for the Miami game.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:52 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You win the internet today. UF doesn't have depth issues.
BTW I was picking UF to win a defensive struggle against Miami before the suspensions and injuries. I see it as a toss up now. I guess we will see on Saturday.
BTW I was picking UF to win a defensive struggle against Miami before the suspensions and injuries. I see it as a toss up now. I guess we will see on Saturday.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:07 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I'm curious. Is Florida dominant on the 2 deep at OL and DL? So much so that a couple of injuries has no dropoff?
Or is Florida average/below average on the starting spot for the OL/DL so much so that a couple of injuries has no dropoff?
Or is Florida average/below average on the starting spot for the OL/DL so much so that a couple of injuries has no dropoff?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:18 pm to meansonny
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I'm curious. Is Florida dominant on the 2 deep at OL and DL? So much so that a couple of injuries has no dropoff?
Or is Florida average/below average on the starting spot for the OL/DL so much so that a couple of injuries has no dropoff?
18 of our 22 starters are upperclassmen, the few who are underclassmen and starting played a lot of snaps last year.
Losing an upperclassman to injury or suspension would hurt any program, but you guys are asking if we'll be in trouble if we lose several players at the same position -- of course we will, any team would.
Losing backup DLs isn't a big deal, though, that position still has a ton of talent but if we lose three guys well duh we'll be in trouble.
On OL that's a different story, but I figure by the sixth game of the season we'll have rotated a few guys in to give them much needed experience.
This is a year, though, where it doesn't matter who is behind the starters, we don't want to lose them because of the experience. OL is literally the only position where we could be in trouble with multiple injuries if the guys behind them aren't developing.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:19 pm to GruvenDawg
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You win the internet today. UF doesn't have depth issues.
BTW I was picking UF to win a defensive struggle against Miami before the suspensions and injuries. I see it as a toss up now. I guess we will see on Saturday.
How many points do you think we'll score?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:21 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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This can change from week to week -- going into the Miami game I'm unconcerned with any part of our roster right now outside of maybe the OL because I'd need to see more.
Not really... my question isn't "do we have enough bodies to play Miami?" It's "do we feel like we have enough depth on the roster that can contribute and make it through the season without huge dropoffs in the event of normal injury volume. There are plenty of years where a team will just get crushed by injuries (2013 or 2014 UGA was rough for example)... We thought we had ok depth, but the numbers were just outside the realm of "normal".
If you have 2-3 DBs get injured prior to the game in Jax, it sounds like you feel like you have sufficient depth to overcome that... at least in the event that no more injuries occur during the game (and presuming it isn't exclusively at the CB position). That's all I'm really asking.
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No, that's not what we're talking about.
Maybe that's what you're talking about, but at the moment I'm putting to rest the absurdity that there are serious glaring problems for the Miami game when there are none.
That can change down the road later provided we have a slew of injuries/suspensions or other nonsense.
Fair enough... I don't actually read the OP anymore...
I asked the depth question in another thread before. Just trying to get some specifics as we enter the season on how Gators feel about team depth. 
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