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re: Fire Up Your Black Helicopters We Got Some SEC Penalty Statistics

Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:17 pm to
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I just picture you pushing Jan Michael Vincent out of the copter and flying out like you stole it.








Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:21 pm to
Have you ever had an original thought? If so, what was it?
Posted by RollTide1214
Member since Jul 2012
137 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:21 pm to
Alabama used officials at practice everyday. Why, because it lets them know what they can get away with. The officials can throw flags for pass interference even in drills. That's why we are great!
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25716 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:24 pm to
Discipline champions.

Print the shirts.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38795 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:25 pm to
Bama has had 5 holding penalties called on their OL all year long.

Three of them were in the Missouri game.

They're just that good.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54840 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:26 pm to
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Alabama used officials at practice everyday. Why
Because they really appreciated the extra pay check and might look to return the favor one day.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156221 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:26 pm to
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Alabama used officials at practice everyday. Why, because it lets them know what they can get away with. The officials can throw flags for pass interference even in drills


Um, Bama isn't the only team that does the above.

Saban is just better than everyone else and Bama OL doesn't hold. It's that simple.
Posted by Ricky_
Tallahassee
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:28 pm to
Cue the typical gump resp- damn beat me to it.
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:28 pm to
I think you nailed it.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:32 pm to
LSU makes thug players.

Bama makes great coaches.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:36 pm to
Bama was screwed in 2009...
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
36037 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:36 pm to
Bama = RefU
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:37 pm to
However when bama had non SEC officials they get3x as many penalties . ( see Michigan game)
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16160 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:37 pm to
You posted a link to a scout.com message board as a source?

Really?

You see, there's an interesting thing about statistics. They can be manipulated to give impressions depending on one's desires.

Take 2012 for example. I think his numbers are actually just a bit off. I have Alabama with 50 penalties and the opponents at 64. Pretty bad, right?

Well, to quote Paul Harvey, let's hear the rest of the story.

We'll start by just looking at conference games. In those 9 matchups, Alabama was flagged for 38 penalties. Their opponents were flagged for 39.

OMG ALABAMA GOT A 1 PENALTY ADVANTAGE! LAUNCH A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION!!!!!

It gets even better.

Alabama was penalized more than their opponent in 5 of the 9 games and even in the other. In those games, Alabama's penalty margin was -16.

So who were the three that had more penalties than Alabama?

LSU (7-1)
Auburn (8-2)
Georgia (7-2)

Well, that nails it I guess. Looks bad.

Know what else looks bad? For the season:

LSU committed 23 more penalties than their opponents, were the most penalized team in 8 of the 12 games, and was flagged for 8 or more penalties 6 times.

UGA committed more penalties than their opponent in every single game except one (Vandy). They a committed 31 more penalties than their opponents for the season.

Auburn committed more penalties than their opponent in 9 games, were even in two, and committed fewer in one - LSU. I guess we could call that the undisciplined bowl. They committed a total of 25 more penalties for the year than their opponents.

Alabama doesn't get the breaks. Y'all just suck.

Here's a tip. Quit cherry picking numbers in an attempt to make lame arse excuses for your team's undisciplined play and simply accept the fact that Bama (and most of the rest of the conference) does a better job of avoiding stupid mistakes that lose games.

Edited to add: I didn't use a message board. I actually looked up the numbers here.
This post was edited on 12/20/12 at 3:41 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156221 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:38 pm to
Poor Jan.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44145 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:38 pm to
Think most honest SEC fans could have told you this without the statistical analysis. You could literally call holding on every single play. Amazing how Bama seems to avoid it.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54840 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:40 pm to
I find it interesting that when doing your analysis you discussed Alabama being "flagged for" and "penalized", but when discussing LSU, UGA and AU you used the phrase "LSU/UGA/AU committed x penalties."

Do you find that interesting at all?
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18086 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:42 pm to
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Saban is just better than everyone else and Bama OL doesn't hold. It's that simple.


This guy gets it.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16160 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:43 pm to
If changing the words make you feel better, make them all the same.

It doesn't change the fact that the fans that are bitching (well at least 2 - UGA seems to be honest about their penalty issues) are supporters of teams that commit more penalties no matter who they're playing.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
22107 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:45 pm to
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How about a list with same stats, but in Bowl games. Then we can see how the same teams shake out, with other conference officials calling the games.



Hell, if anything the refs for State's last two bowl games were even more generous to us than the SEC refs are to Bamer.

I remember two seperate occasions where our secondary breaks up a pass in the redzone and it is blatant PI and everybody else is cheering and I am the only one that hollars a cuss word word thinking we just gave them a 1st down inside the twenty. Then it's not called and I have to do the "oh yeah, on replay it was clearly uncatchable then" thing.
This post was edited on 12/20/12 at 3:49 pm
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