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re: Finebaum: Kalen DeBoer on ‘scorching hot seat,’ as Tide performance ‘horrifying’
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:45 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:45 pm to lsufball19
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Who’s praising Kelly? Certainly not the majority of this board. Go read tiger droppings if you want to see the homer takes. Must aren’t pleased with him over there either. But if it makes you feel better to manufacture hypocrisy, knock yourself out. Kelly also didn’t take over the Alabama program. Alabama was in a lot better shape than LSU. Both coaches should feel heat right now.
I don't read the boards of other teams.
I'm just going by what I see here. Just yesterday one of your fans was posting win % to pump up BK. Same with recruiting and so on.
I know some fans are reasonable, but they don't post.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 12:46 pm
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:48 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Alabama had Jalen Milroe, LSU had Jayden Daniels. Hard to argue that Alabama was in better shape when their top line of the QB depth chart was barely a serviceable quarterback yet LSU had a Heisman trophy winner and soon-to-be NFL Rookie of the Year.
Literally no one thought Daniels would win a Heisman 2 years later. Kelly also didn’t have him on the roster when he took the job. He signed him and developed him. LSU’s best QB on the roster when Kelly took the job was freshman Garrett Nussmeier. Remember LSU had to start a WR at QB in the bowl game because Nuss was the last scholarship QB left and they didn’t want to burn his redshirt.
And no one on this board gave a bakers frick what LSU’s roster overall looked like in re Kelly’s evaluation.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:48 pm to 3down10
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Just yesterday one of your fans was posting win % to pump up BK. Same with recruiting and so on.
So one guy is the voice of the fanbase as a whole?
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I don't read the boards of other teams.
Well that’s a lie, but disregarding that, maybe you should before shitposting
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:48 pm to lsufball19
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Losing to 3 average to bad teams doesn’t help his case either.
3 out of those 4 losses were directly attributable to one player; a guy who, for whatever reason, two coaching staffs felt they couldn't bench because of some handshake/NIL agreement or fear of mutiny from the OLine and skill players.
DeBoer could utilize maybe 25% of his playbook with Milroe. And even then his QB couldn't see the receivers he schemed wide open.
Give the man a quarterback who can actually play the position and run his system before we pass any sort of judgement.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:49 pm to lsufball19
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So one guy is the voice of the fanbase as a whole?
No, I'm not even talking about the stephens, that racist guy and so on. He's actually one of the more reasonable ones compared to some.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:50 pm to 3down10
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No, I'm not even talking about the stephens, that racist guy and so on. He's actually one of the more reasonable ones compared to some.
Do you put yourself in the category of reasonable?
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:52 pm to Stidham8
That you’re watching Finebaum is the saddest story I’ve heard today
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:53 pm to Marktastic86
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3 out of those 4 losses were directly attributable to one player; a guy who, for whatever reason, two coaching staffs felt they couldn't bench because of some handshake/NIL agreement or fear of mutiny from the OLine and skill players. DeBoer could utilize maybe 25% of his playbook with Milroe. And even then his QB couldn't see the receivers he schemed wide open.
Which begs the question exactly how bad is former 5 star Ty Simpson? Why wasn’t he playing? Fear of mutiny? Please. That’s where Deboer needs to be a leader. Caving to that bullshite did nothing productive. But I just don’t buy that. Maybe last year but after he still sucked this year, highly doubt midway through the season the offensive players wouldn’t welcome a change if there were a better option
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:53 pm to lsufball19
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Do you put yourself in the category of reasonable?
I generally think people will assume whatever makes them feel best.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:54 pm to Stidham8
This is the same dumbass who said Mississippi State was wrong for firing Croom and that Dan Mullen was going to be a world beater at Florida.
shite stirring is the only thing that arse gets correct.
shite stirring is the only thing that arse gets correct.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:59 pm to Great Plains Drifter
Washington playing a B1G schedule would’ve made it about as tough as the SEC now.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:00 pm to lsufball19
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Literally no one thought Daniels would win a Heisman 2 years later. Kelly also didn’t have him on the roster when he took the job. He signed him and developed him. LSU’s best QB on the roster when Kelly took the job was freshman Garrett Nussmeier
My opinion is that the late Saban regime missed on prospect evaluation or simply lacked the coaching on the offensive side of the ball to properly develop any position on the field. I've seen a bonafide "4 and 5 star laden" offense in the last 20 years at Tuscaloosa and whatever the hell Alabama was fielding the last 2 seasons wasn't it.
Hell, I'd argue the seams were showing on the degradation of Saban's ability to hire staff on offense at the very start of the Young QB era. 2021 team was bad on the offensive line yet Young, Brian Robinson (last guy not developed by Gillespie), Metchie (understudied with the 2017 WR class and Waddle), and Jamo from Ohio State papered over it until BRob was on 1 good leg and the two WRs were out.
The 2022 had all the same problems but BRob, Metchie, and Jamo gone. Nobody could get open and the offensive line was so ineffective that they couldn't maximize having Gibbs from the transfer portal. None of the receivers could get open doing anything but deep overs against quality competition.
Once Young was gone, it all got laid bare. The talent sucked.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:01 pm to lsufball19
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Which begs the question exactly how bad is former 5 star Ty Simpson? Why wasn’t he playing? Fear of mutiny? Please. That’s where Deboer needs to be a leader. Caving to that bullshite did nothing productive. But I just don’t buy that. Maybe last year but after he still sucked this year, highly doubt midway through the season the offensive players wouldn’t welcome a change if there were a better option
Saban didn't bench Milroe either. Was he not a leader? I've heard he was a pretty decent coach. There was definitely something going on in the background. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but there's no way a guy who's playing that poorly and consistently turning the ball over doesn't see the bench unless there was some sort of agreement that he HAD to play.
DeBoer is not an idiot. Saban definitely isn't. But both of them continued to put that dumb-dumb on the field every week no matter how much he fricked up. Believe what you want, but it was pretty clear something was going on the past two seasons with this dude.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:06 pm to Stidham8
Finebaum is such an idiot. If there was anything I’m embarrassed about being from the south for, it’s that we gave that dumbass a voice.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:12 pm to Marktastic86
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Saban didn't bench Milroe either. Was he not a leader? I've heard he was a pretty decent coach. There was definitely something going on in the background. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but there's no way a guy who's playing that poorly and consistently turning the ball over doesn't see the bench unless there was some sort of agreement that he HAD to play.
DeBoer is not an idiot. Saban definitely isn't. But both of them continued to put that dumb-dumb on the field every week no matter how much he fricked up. Believe what you want, but it was pretty clear something was going on the past two seasons with this dude.
He did bench him last year for the USF game, and you saw how the back ups performed. The fact of the matter is that they didn't have anyone better. It's not some grand conspiracy.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:14 pm to Marktastic86
De Boer isn't going anywhere til at least Year 3 especially in this time of NIL.
Fire him and he gets 90%of his current contract in monthly installments until it expires.This year that would end up around 70 million.
Finebaum is FOS.
Fire him and he gets 90%of his current contract in monthly installments until it expires.This year that would end up around 70 million.
Finebaum is FOS.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:14 pm to lsufball19
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He took over a loaded roster, certainly one that shouldn’t have lost 4 games. Les Miles was autistic and won the division and had a top 5 finish when he took over Saban’s previous program. He also had to deal with two Hurricanes displacing players and games his first month on the job. Deboer should feel some heat, first year or not. Losing to 3 average to bad teams doesn’t help his case either.
A "loaded" roster that was one play away from losing to three embarrassingly bad teams last year with the added luxury of the 40+ players who transferred or went pro like Downs, Amos, Kool-Aid, Arnold, Turner, etc. A roster so loaded that three of the standout players on offense were Deboer's guys (a true freshman and two Washington transfers).
And they still blew LSU out with the worst Alabama QB under center since 2004... Dark days ahead for LSU.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:15 pm to Marktastic86
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Saban didn't bench Milroe either. Was he not a leader? I've heard he was a pretty decent coach. There was definitely something going on in the background. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but there's no way a guy who's playing that poorly and consistently turning the ball over doesn't see the bench unless there was some sort of agreement that he HAD to play.
Saban did bench Milroe for a game last year. Alabama also won the conference and made the CFP last year with Milroe so clearly Saban figured out a way to win in that situation. Even with Milroe being terrible, you’ll never convince me he’d have let his team lose to Vandy and get blown out by Oklahoma thus year.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:19 pm to Imber
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He did bench him last year for the USF game, and you saw how the back ups performed. The fact of the matter is that they didn't have anyone better. It's not some grand conspiracy.
That wasn't a benching because of poor play. Saban said as much in the presser the following Monday. And the OLinemen literally let pass rushers run by them in that game, so not sure how you can judge Simpson off playing in a monsoon with no one blocking for him.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:19 pm to Stidham8
If finebomb said it, it must be true. 
Onionhead just banking on lots of callers tomorrow.
Onionhead just banking on lots of callers tomorrow.
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