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Posted on 7/25/12 at 8:29 pm to StrickAggie06
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They got away with murder during the SWC cheat-a-thon in the 1980's because the head of the NCAA enforcement committee was a Texas law professor and big-time Longhorn supporter.
Is that why they were so good in the 80's?
From 1984-1989 Texas' records were: 7-4-1, 8-4, 5-6, 7-5, 4-7, 5-6.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 8:31 pm to Swoopin
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Has there been a post by an aTm fan on this board that didn't allude to Texas?
FIFY
Posted on 7/25/12 at 8:45 pm to MikeTheTiger2893
The SEC is like Shawshank...not a guilty man in here.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 8:45 pm to Tammany Tom
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Is that why they were so good in the 80's?
From 1984-1989 Texas' records were: 7-4-1, 8-4, 5-6, 7-5, 4-7, 5-6.
Your point being? They sucked arse and yet still recruited extremely well. That just reinforces my earlier point that big time programs still recruit well during their down periods due to less than legit recruiting methods.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 8:49 pm to Vidic
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I don't know if every program straight pays players, but I have no doubt every program gives their kids "benefits"
This.
I think a few programs pay players straight cash.
I think every program gives players "benefits." Some probably give more "benefits" than others, but to what extent is completely unknown.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 8:54 pm to MikeTheTiger2893
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Haha so A&M is innocent?


Posted on 7/25/12 at 10:16 pm to FinleyStreet
Agree as well. People think things are going on like in "Blue Chips" on a regular basis. It's not. Granted it does happen but not as common a practice as is thought. Extra benifits go on everywhere. Jobs for friends or family members, moving expenses, homes leased, great deals on cars, some cash here and there etc. In some cases large amounts of money change hands but usually it's in installments. Easier to cover installments than a larege lump sum.
Also agree academic fraud is the biggest problem the NCAA has. Just look at the UNC and FSU scandals. Do people really believe those were select cases? They just got caught. Hs kids getting qualified is also part of this problem. Grade buying or just flat out given is also very common.
Every school does something. Some go further than others but we all have our skeletons. To think different is naive and reeks of homerism. Of course to most fans, everyone cheats but their school. That stance is as contradictory as it is wrong. Even with all the evidence out there to the contrary, LSU still has a large faction that believes we're not cheating. That evidence is either extremely coincidental or circumstantial or we're dirty as hell.
Also agree academic fraud is the biggest problem the NCAA has. Just look at the UNC and FSU scandals. Do people really believe those were select cases? They just got caught. Hs kids getting qualified is also part of this problem. Grade buying or just flat out given is also very common.
Every school does something. Some go further than others but we all have our skeletons. To think different is naive and reeks of homerism. Of course to most fans, everyone cheats but their school. That stance is as contradictory as it is wrong. Even with all the evidence out there to the contrary, LSU still has a large faction that believes we're not cheating. That evidence is either extremely coincidental or circumstantial or we're dirty as hell.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 10:32 pm to StrickAggie06
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I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, but what exactly about Brenham and Houston schools makes you think that? We don't have anyone on our roster from Brenham, the two we had committed last yr were grade risks and were dumped, and we didn't land Malcolm Brown or Tim Cole.
It's just Baller Gravy as usual doing his best to impress ranters with what a badass big-money insider he is, throwing around speculation based on old information. He also promises to personally blow every ranter when they visit College Station.
This post was edited on 7/25/12 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:32 pm to AUMomFromTX
ATM doesn't cheat, they just get UT left overs
This post was edited on 7/25/12 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:34 pm to Tammany Tom
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From 1984-1989 Texas' records were: 7-4-1, 8-4, 5-6, 7-5, 4-7, 5-6
apparently we sucked at cheating and on the field.
And I'd love to get the name of that all-powerful Longhorn supporter who was allowing us to cheat so poorly. dude needs an arse kicking for that decade of suckitude
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:36 pm to OrangeBlood
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And I'd love to get the name of that all-powerful Longhorn supporter who was allowing us to cheat so poorly. dude needs an arse kicking for that decade of suckitude
Ask Vince Young, he can tell ya
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:39 pm to cas4t
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If ya ain't cheatin ya ain't tryin amirite?? (elbow nudge and wink)
You be rite. blee dat.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:41 pm to MikeTheTiger2893
Ok, where should I start? I'll just start here guys.
Most SEC programs cheat, lie, steal, and cheat.
These programs do not include Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Kentucy, or Georgia.
Most SEC programs cheat, lie, steal, and cheat.
These programs do not include Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Kentucy, or Georgia.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:42 pm to Mullen3:16
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These programs do not include Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Kentucy, or Georgia.
Ok.
UK = Calipari. Nuff said.
Georgia - Harrick - ditto
Miss State - Cam but fricked it up.
Vanderbilt - Intramural program. Cheating N/A
This post was edited on 7/25/12 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:44 pm to StrickAggie06
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Incorrect. What I think is even if LSU were to have a down period for a few years, like the 90's, you would still recruit at a high level partly due to less than legit recruiting methods.
must not have been around during the early 90s. if lsu was cheating they were really bad at it, because no one good from louisiana went to lsu
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:48 pm to StrickAggie06
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Maybe you're just good at it.
Texas is one of the least sanctioned programs, but they are, and always have been, dirty as shite. They got away with murder during the SWC cheat-a-thon in the 1980's because the head of the NCAA enforcement committee was a Texas law professor and big-time Longhorn supporter.
the state of texas has so many high rated players, and texas is THE flagship school in the state. i highly doubt they need to be dirtier than the next guy to fill up a class full of 4 and 5 star players. i'm sure they cheat to an extent, but i don't think they're as dirty as you think they are as an a&m fan. the 80s "cheat-a-thon" was 30 years ago.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:51 pm to lsufanva
I wonder if you can really blame the coaches for the so called academic fraud. Some of these kids are complete dumbasses that never would have seen the inside of a college classroom unless they were taking out the garbage. We are not talking "Good Will Hunting" here.
Without naming names, everybody knows who the dumbasses are on their teams. Same idiots who get into trouble.
Without naming names, everybody knows who the dumbasses are on their teams. Same idiots who get into trouble.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:53 pm to AUTiger83

Errbody knows this to be true
Posted on 7/25/12 at 11:53 pm to Mullen3:16
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Ok, where should I start? I'll just start here guys.
Most SEC programs cheat, lie, steal, and cheat.
These programs do not include Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Kentucy, or Georgia.
Jackie Sherill was clean, lol ok.
UGA, pleeaaasseee
Kentucky, football probably not, basketball...yeah
Vandy, probably not
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