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re: ESPN's best college football teams of the decade (by conference)

Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:22 am to
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:22 am to
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It is illogical to put a team with losses ahead of a team with no losses.


so it's okay to put 06 Boise State above 06 Florida??

G.T.F.O.

Posted by am4titansandlsu
The South
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:23 am to
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You'd think that would be pretty obvious, but logic isn't very common in these parts. It is illogical to put a team with losses ahead of a team with no losses. It doesn't matter if you believe there was more talent on the team with losses; the point is, the team LOST. Alabama did not lose.


Bama might not have lost, but head to head, that doesnt mean jack if the 2 teams would have played. Even with LSU's loss, LSU in 2003 was a much more dominating team than Bama was in 09 as a whole. The SEC was better top to bottum in 03 as well from what I remember
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:24 am to
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You'd think that would be pretty obvious, but logic isn't very common in these parts. It is illogical to put a team with losses ahead of a team with no losses. It doesn't matter if you believe there was more talent on the team with losses; the point is, the team LOST. Alabama did not lose.



sorry I have to post this again just so everyone can see what a fricking gump retard you are. you're saying that the ONLY thing that qualifies a great team is going undefeated. that's just plain and simply muthafrickin DUMB!

Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:28 am to
I root for Alabama just like you but I'm being objective here. '08 Florida crushed teams last year. They beat teams by an average margin of 30.7 PPG. For comparison's sake, Alabama only beat two teams by over 30 this year (North Texas and UT Chattanooga). I have '03 LSU ranked ahead of us because their defense was even better then ours and were more explosive offensively.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 12:30 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:29 am to
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I root for Alabama just like you but I'm being objective here. '08 Florida crushed teams last year. They beat teams by an average margin of 30.7 PPG. For comparison's sake, Alabama only beat two teams by over 30 this year (North Texas and UT Chattanooga). I have '03 LSU ranked ahead of us because their defense was even better then ours and were more explosive offensively.


Pretty much that.
2003 LSU > Bama 2009
2007 LSU < Bama 2009

Even though I think 2007 would win on the field.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 12:30 am
Posted by superman
Member since Mar 2008
8079 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:29 am to
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Bama might not have lost, but head to head, that doesnt mean jack if the 2 teams would have played. Even with LSU's loss, LSU in 2003 was a much more dominating team than Bama was in 09 as a whole. The SEC was better top to bottum in 03 as well from what I remember


Bama beat an NCAA record TEN teams that went to bowl games this year. There is not a thing you can say that could legitimize the idea that 03 Lsu would have beaten 09 Bama
Posted by SabanIsAGod
Jackson
Member since Oct 2009
3880 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:30 am to
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I root for Alabama just like you but I'm being objective here. '08 Florida crushed teams last year. They beat teams by an average margin of 30.7 PPG. For comparison's sake, Alabama only beat two teams by over 30 this year (North Texas and UT Chattanooga). I have '03 LSU ranked ahead of us because their defense was even better then ours and were more explosive offensively.


really?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:31 am to
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Bama beat an NCAA record TEN teams that went to bowl games this year. There is not a thing you can say that could legitimize the idea that 03 Lsu would have beaten 09 Bama


Except that they were better

I base my rankings on who would beat who. I don't give a damn if the 72 dolphins went undefeated, the 09 Bama team would wreck them completely. As would most elite programs now.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 12:32 am
Posted by SabanIsAGod
Jackson
Member since Oct 2009
3880 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:32 am to
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Except that they were better

I base my rankings on who would beat who. I don't give a damn if the 72 dolphins went undefeated, the 09 Bama team would wreck them completely.



Saban vs Saban
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:32 am to
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I would say going 14-0 and beating 10 bowl teams, as well as defeating the past three national champions in the process would warrant being at the top.


The defense was very similar and offensively Auburn had a far more powerful offense than Bama. That offense if turned lose was just amazing. Campbell had over a 200 passer rating on 3rd downs, no QB in the SEC the last 10 years has come close to that. And no way 2008 UF team should be ahead of the AU 2004 team, you could make the argument for Bama, though that game would have likely gone to AU had they played head to head, the UF team wouldn't have stood a chance.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 12:34 am
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:32 am to
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I root for Alabama just like you but I'm being objective here. '08 Florida crushed teams last year. They beat teams by an average margin of 30.7 PPG. For comparison's sake, Alabama only beat two teams by over 30 this year (North Texas and UT Chattanooga). I have '03 LSU ranked ahead of us because their defense was even better then ours and were more explosive offensively.


+1000000000000000

quality post, sir



Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:33 am to
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There is not a thing you can say that could legitimize the idea that 03 Lsu would have beaten 09 Bama


just trust us, 03 LSU would win.
Posted by superman
Member since Mar 2008
8079 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:34 am to
08 UF lost to Ole Miss and needed a 4th quarter comeback to beat Bama in the SEC championship game. 2009 Bama defense was better in many categories than the LSU defense. I listed them all out in a thread a while back... aNd they managed to lose to a 7-5 Florida team at home.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 12:37 am
Posted by Marines4Auburn
Auburn Alum in South Florida
Member since Sep 2009
14926 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:35 am to
Auburn 04' would have beat the shite out of everyteam that has ever played football pro or college. See I can be biased too.
Posted by BamaFan89
T-Town
Member since Dec 2009
19303 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:36 am to
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Auburn 04' would have beat the shite out of everyteam that has ever played football pro or college


Here we go again
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:36 am to
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2009 Bama defense was better in many categories than the LSU defense.


categories. I saw both those defenses in person. 03 LSU was better. not by a mile or anything, but it was one of the top 3 defenses of the past decade if not THE best.
Posted by superman
Member since Mar 2008
8079 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:38 am to
I'm sure you're being objective.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:40 am to
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I'm sure you're being objective.


i honestly am. but you're a Bama fan and I'm an LSU fan and there's no way either of us is going to think the other isn't blinded by homerism.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:41 am to
'08 Florida beat us without Harvin dude. Obviously this year's team is better in a lot of ways then last year's team but don't act like Florida was playing with a full deck of cards last year. If '08 Florida played '09 Alabama, Harvin would have made one or two big plays just like he did against Oklahoma to win them the game.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
102156 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:44 am to
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so it's okay to put 06 Boise State above 06 Florida??

I love how this gets avoided. Going undefeated isn't everything.
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