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re: ESPN way too early college football ranking

Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by MadisonReb10
Brandon, MS
Member since Aug 2010
885 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:44 pm to
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1. Georgia 2. Ohio State 3. Oregon 4. Texas 5. Notre Dame 6. Ole Miss 7. Mizzou 8. Penn State 9. Alabama 10. Utah 11. Arizona 12. LSU


If it finishes up like this then the SEC could possibly sweep the first round of the playoffs. LSU @ Notre Dame, Arizona @ Ole Miss, Utah @ Mizzou, and Bama @ Penn St
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4209 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:53 pm to
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I don't know about that. Alabama still has a top 10 roster, but it lost 30 players to the portal (20 before Saban retired and 10 after). Additionally they probably lost 4 first round draft picks and a handful of additional draft picks, which is fairly normal but when combined with much of the experience depth behind those guys also portaling out makes this year quite different. Off the top of my head Georgia, Ohio State, and Texas should have more talented rosters. A couple others probably close. When you combined that with first year coaching staff, I think ESPN's presason ranking of 9 is pretty reasonable. I mean #9 is still pretty damn high and indicates 10 wins and a playoff spot.


We'll see how the talent rankings pan out, but since Bama signed most of their incoming class on early signing day, the talent level next year will likely not drop as much as you think.

Bama already came in with an edge. Last year they had 18 5-stars on their roster. The next closes was UGA at 13, then OSU at 10. Texas had 9.

Bama brought in 5 5-stars (as did UGA). OSU and TExas had 4. Honestly the only school close enough for even the type of attrition Bama had this off season to pass them in talent is likely UGA.

Next year the big talent teams are going to be Bama, UGA, OSU and Texas, just like every year.

You'll then have the "enough talent to challenge" teams in Clemson, LSU, USC and A&M. Then you have the guys who's talent level is climbing but maybe aren't there yet like Oregon and Oklahoma.

My main point though is that Deboer has a good track record of coming in and coaching up the prior coach's guys to a high level. At Bama the prior coach's guys are extremely talenteded.

My main concern with him isn't year 1 and 2... it's beyond that when he has his own recruits carrying the load. He hasn't proven himself as a recruiter yet and to be honest that's more important for success in CFB than anything.

I think Bama will be very good next year. Top 5 in the nation good just like they were this season. I think people thinking they drop down to a 5-10 ranked team are not understanding how full the cabinet is for Deboer at Alabama and how big the talent gap is from the top teams even down to those in the 6-9 range.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 7:59 pm
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:57 pm to
My God if Arizona came to Oxford for a playoff game

They couldn’t make it out of Starkville with a win last year
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
2481 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:58 pm to
UGA with 6 of these teams on their regular season schedule.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16176 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:59 pm to
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5. Notre Dame


Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:28 pm to
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1. Georgia
2. Ohio State

Such a nice looking site (Dawgs #1 & OSU ain't)!
Biggest error of the whole thing. It should be Ohio State #1 and Georgia #2.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:35 pm to
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Why did michigan fall so far?
Their signal stealers left, their head coach and most of his staff left(Getting out of Dodge), and their best players left.

They will not finish in the Top 25.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17273 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:41 pm to
12- LSU
13-Michigan
Wrong!
12-Michigan
13-LSU

That’s more like it.
Posted by Mizzouligan
St. Louis, MO
Member since Aug 2014
393 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:52 pm to
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quote:
Why did michigan fall so far?
Their signal stealers left, their head coach and most of his staff left(Getting out of Dodge), and their best players left.

They will not finish in the Top 25.



But they will still beat osu like a drum and send Day packing.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2843 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:57 pm to
Where’s Auburn?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24927 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:03 pm to
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1. Georgia 2. Ohio State 3. Oregon 4. Texas 5. Notre Dame 6. Ole Miss 7. Mizzou 8. Penn State 9. Alabama 10. Utah 11. Arizona 12. LSU


quote:

If it finishes up like this then the SEC could possibly sweep the first round of the playoffs.


Impossible. 1-4 have to all be from different conferences (top 4 conference champs get bye). So wont be 2 SEC and 2 Big 10 like above. Also at least one of the 12 spots will be taken by a group of 5 conference champ. Also there is no ACC team in that top 12 above which there will have to be at least the ACC champ in there.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8255 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:06 pm to
OU plays 6 ranked teams on list:

4 of top 10
5 of top 12
6 of top 16
Posted by FellowChampHooked
California
Member since Jul 2021
495 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:15 pm to
Who are the dumb fcks that continue to vote for aggy
Posted by TheLoupGarou
Benton, LA
Member since Oct 2010
1182 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:57 pm to
I distilled the rankings down to the RELEVENT teams... which I say is still BS.

1. UGA (well, probably a good guess, I won't contest this)
2. Texas (very unlikely, but remote possibility)
3. Ole Miss (only if they get extremely lucky!)
4. Mizzou (who? Are they SEC?)
5. Bama (way too high)
6. LSU (way too low)
7. Oklahoma (who knows, but I think there's coming a reckonin')
8. Tennessee (about right)
9. Kentucky (basketball season will be over by September)
10. aTm (10th in the SEC out of 16, sounds about right)

Who does that leave out? Arky, Moo State, Florida (my, how the mighty have fallen), Auburn (ditto), USCe, and Vandy (of course).
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1121 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 12:24 am to
Seems too high for a Mizzou team with a new DC and lots to replace on defense. I'd be more comfortable with 12-15 Mizzou. But the schedule probably makes it look like a safe placement.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14943 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 12:45 am to
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Seems too high for a Mizzou team with a new DC and lots to replace on defense. I'd be more comfortable with 12-15 Mizzou. But the schedule probably makes it look like a safe placement.


DC isn't the problem. If the experts pick the Mizzou team to be good again based on this year's schedule and last year's record, and roster being the same or little better. Then you compared to all the other teams and their schedule.
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